Suspension and traction issues
#1
Suspension and traction issues
For those making 500hp + or not
First of all, I’ve already searched the forum.
Just put a new motor and Vortech s-trim
http://amarilloracers.vidiac.com/top...B226B8B0B8.htm
in my 1993 mustang Lx. I made 508 hp and 508 torque to the rear wheels.
Can’t get any traction. Duh. I’ve got some MT ET streets 28x10.50x15. And that’s pretty much it for traction.I'm doing a decent burn out. The reason I went with street slicks is because of the stock axles.
I tried a few ¼ mile runs today. Best top speed was 109 with a bunch of traction loss. If I leave off the line at low rpm, it laggs. To high, lose traction in first and second gear.. Running 16 psi in the tires. The guy I bought this car from told me that it has suspension springs out of an 1993 4 cylinder stang.
What suspension parts to I need to buy for the front and rear?
I just need to know where to start and want to buy. I dont want to go back and ugrade the suspension later.Any tips?
First of all, I’ve already searched the forum.
Just put a new motor and Vortech s-trim
http://amarilloracers.vidiac.com/top...B226B8B0B8.htm
in my 1993 mustang Lx. I made 508 hp and 508 torque to the rear wheels.
Can’t get any traction. Duh. I’ve got some MT ET streets 28x10.50x15. And that’s pretty much it for traction.I'm doing a decent burn out. The reason I went with street slicks is because of the stock axles.
I tried a few ¼ mile runs today. Best top speed was 109 with a bunch of traction loss. If I leave off the line at low rpm, it laggs. To high, lose traction in first and second gear.. Running 16 psi in the tires. The guy I bought this car from told me that it has suspension springs out of an 1993 4 cylinder stang.
What suspension parts to I need to buy for the front and rear?
I just need to know where to start and want to buy. I dont want to go back and ugrade the suspension later.Any tips?
#2
RE: Suspension and traction issues
I'm not seeing where you're going with the rear axle. The axle should be strong enough to handle the power and if it's not then you should consider that as your first upgrade. A 4 link setup would definently help you. The other thing I've heard people do (NOTE: this is a cheap, oldschool way, I've never done it but I would try if I had a drag truck) is take chains and bolt them on the spring to limit travel so that the rear has to come up a bit.
#3
RE: Suspension and traction issues
Well I know where your going with the axles. The axles in these cars from the factory are junk after you put slicks on them. Ive heard of mustangs with a basically stock engine breaking the axles with Drag radials.
As far as the 4 link...well um it comes factory with four link...just kinda a poor design that works.
There a lot of suspension mods that you can do to get it to hook. But first your gonna have to upgrade your diff and axle to handle the grip.
As far as the 4 link...well um it comes factory with four link...just kinda a poor design that works.
There a lot of suspension mods that you can do to get it to hook. But first your gonna have to upgrade your diff and axle to handle the grip.
#4
RE: Suspension and traction issues
If I were you here are some of the FIRST things I would add:
Subframes
Torque Box Reinforcements (VERY IMPORTANT)
31 Moser Axles
Upgrade Differential, etc.
As far as suspension there are MANY things to upgrade.... Heres just a brief list:
Tubular K Member
Tubular A Arms
Coil Over Kit (Front & Rear or just Front, etc.)
Shocks/Struts
Springs (if no coilover)
Upper/Lower Control Arms (BEST help w/ improving traction)
etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
BTW, I am VERY interested to hear what else you have done to the car. Also, I am guessing this is all on a stock block w/ stock internals. Please give a detailed description of setup. THANKS!
Subframes
Torque Box Reinforcements (VERY IMPORTANT)
31 Moser Axles
Upgrade Differential, etc.
As far as suspension there are MANY things to upgrade.... Heres just a brief list:
Tubular K Member
Tubular A Arms
Coil Over Kit (Front & Rear or just Front, etc.)
Shocks/Struts
Springs (if no coilover)
Upper/Lower Control Arms (BEST help w/ improving traction)
etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
BTW, I am VERY interested to hear what else you have done to the car. Also, I am guessing this is all on a stock block w/ stock internals. Please give a detailed description of setup. THANKS!
#5
RE: Suspension and traction issues
Eh... yeah it does and doesn't like you said.... I've been wanting to replace my quadshocks and get some tubular lower control arms. I've heard it's a good idea to strengthen the mounting point of the control arms with some washers prior to install. The last guy makes a good point with his frame stiffening. No point in having all that power if you can't plant it. BTW.... what gear do you have?
#6
RE: Suspension and traction issues
Ok, axles and diff wil be first. I have the subframe connectors already.
88bluegt,here's what's in the motor. This motor was built to be superchargered.
8.5:1 compresion
stock block
race preped stock crank and rods.
SRP forged pistion.
DSS Main billet girdle.
X303 TURBO Swirl aluminum heads(out of the box.)
1.6 fms aluminum rockers.
42 lb injectors
Comps custom grind cam for superchagers XE274HR.
stock fuel rails
trickflow hardened pushrods.
intank holley 255lph fuel pump
T-rex in-line fuel pump
gt-40 upper and lower(out of the box)
msd pro billet distributor.
BBK 1 5/8 shorties
76mm C&L
75 MM ACCUFAB
msd BTM box
Vortech S-trim with 12 psi pulley. Made 14psi on the dyno. Makes 12 psi on the street.
Tuned with SCT programmable switch chip.
Anderson power pipe
Made 508hp and 508 torque at the rear wheels. Est 602 flywheel hp
I have a Snow Performance Stage 2 meth/h2o cooler for added insurance I haven't
yet installed. Still looking for a good Tuner.
I know a little about motor cominations but suck and putting the hp to the ground.
Still going to school in that department.
88bluegt,here's what's in the motor. This motor was built to be superchargered.
8.5:1 compresion
stock block
race preped stock crank and rods.
SRP forged pistion.
DSS Main billet girdle.
X303 TURBO Swirl aluminum heads(out of the box.)
1.6 fms aluminum rockers.
42 lb injectors
Comps custom grind cam for superchagers XE274HR.
stock fuel rails
trickflow hardened pushrods.
intank holley 255lph fuel pump
T-rex in-line fuel pump
gt-40 upper and lower(out of the box)
msd pro billet distributor.
BBK 1 5/8 shorties
76mm C&L
75 MM ACCUFAB
msd BTM box
Vortech S-trim with 12 psi pulley. Made 14psi on the dyno. Makes 12 psi on the street.
Tuned with SCT programmable switch chip.
Anderson power pipe
Made 508hp and 508 torque at the rear wheels. Est 602 flywheel hp
I have a Snow Performance Stage 2 meth/h2o cooler for added insurance I haven't
yet installed. Still looking for a good Tuner.
I know a little about motor cominations but suck and putting the hp to the ground.
Still going to school in that department.
#7
RE: Suspension and traction issues
What kind of budget are you working with? Do you want the best or the best bang for the buck?
For the rear, swap the 4cyl. springs for V8 springs. Look into UCAs, LCAs and an anti-roll bar from Team Z Motorsports, Wolfe or if on a budget UPR. For the front suspension, look at PA, AJE or again if on a budget UPR.
For the rear, swap the 4cyl. springs for V8 springs. Look into UCAs, LCAs and an anti-roll bar from Team Z Motorsports, Wolfe or if on a budget UPR. For the front suspension, look at PA, AJE or again if on a budget UPR.
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