very dissapointed PLEASE HELP
07-14-2006, 02:33 AM
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RE: very dissapointed PLEASE HELP
ORIGINAL: kevinek
This isnt even a 86 mustang h.o this has the firing order out of a non roller 302 like a truck or a crown vic.What can I do?
This isnt even a 86 mustang h.o this has the firing order out of a non roller 302 like a truck or a crown vic.What can I do?
07-14-2006, 02:36 AM
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RE: very dissapointed PLEASE HELP
ORIGINAL: myshifter
Ok thanks Ill check.One more question will my computer be ok with the bigger hydraulic flat tappet cam.I just dont want to tear it apart and never be able to get it to run right.Thanks,Kevin
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ORIGINAL: myshifter
let me know if you see two holes directly in the center of the lifter valley that are drilled and tapped. Those would be for the lifter hold down. If there are no holes directly in the center of the lifter valley it's a standard block, but Like I said, its no big deal whatsoever.
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Im sure this is a stupid question but how can I tell when I get the intake off if its a roller block?Thanks,Kevin
ORIGINAL: myshifter
the heads and intake will work fine, the cam wont. Since the firing order is different I can all but guarantee its just a standard hydraulic flat tappet cam. So either order the heads and intake, then order a hydraulic cam from comp, crane etc... On the other hand if it is a roller block but using a hydraulic flat tappet cam, you could order the roller lifters, hold down and links and then use the TFS cam. Go take the the uppr and lower intakes off since your buying an intake and see if atleast its a roller block, or find a casting number. If it is a roller block just using a hydraulic cam you can use the TFS cam provided you buy the hold down, lifters, links. You really need to find out if its a roller block or not, thats first.
ORIGINAL: kevinek
I was just about to order the trickflow head cam and Intake for my car and now Im wondering will that work even if I dont have the roller block?if it will what firing order would I use then?
ORIGINAL: myshifter
Im not sure what you are trying to accomplish. Just cause it has the old firing is no big deal. I wonder if its a roller block though, even though its more than likely just has a flat tappet hydraulic cam.
ORIGINAL: kevinek
Is that what Ill need for this engine a solid roller cam?What about heads are the heads advertised for the 5.0 h.o work alright on
Is that what Ill need for this engine a solid roller cam?What about heads are the heads advertised for the 5.0 h.o work alright on
ORIGINAL: myshifter
so what, run a solid roller cam, makes more power than the hydraulic roller cams, no big deal whatsoever. HO-schmo, nonsense
ORIGINAL: kevinek
This isnt even a 86 mustang h.o this has the firing order out of a non roller 302 like a truck or a crown vic.What can I do?
This isnt even a 86 mustang h.o this has the firing order out of a non roller 302 like a truck or a crown vic.What can I do?
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Thanks alot for all the info I feel a little better.
07-14-2006, 02:37 AM
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RE: very dissapointed PLEASE HELP
ok, all mods that you can do to a mass air car, you can do to a speed density car, other than the cam, I have posted correct info about speed density cams YESTERDAY! search my posts! there have been about 5 threads in the last 2 days about speed density
07-14-2006, 02:51 AM
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RE: very dissapointed PLEASE HELP
Im not really concerned anymore about the sd I just found out by looking at the firing order that I dont even have a h.o motor so if I have to buy a Larger hydralic flat tappet cam will my computer work even though it originally had a roller cam?Sorry if you thought I was still harrasing yall with the speed density questions but now thats the least of my concerns.Im just kind of worried I just paid good money for the car and it dont even have a h.o motor
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ok, all mods that you can do to a mass air car, you can do to a speed density car, other than the cam, I have posted correct info about speed density cams YESTERDAY! search my posts! there have been about 5 threads in the last 2 days about speed density
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tuote]ORIGINAL: Twister
ok, all mods that you can do to a mass air car, you can do to a speed density car, other than the cam, I have posted correct info about speed density cams YESTERDAY! search my posts! there have been about 5 threads in the last 2 days about speed density
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07-14-2006, 03:07 AM
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RE: very dissapointed PLEASE HELP
No it does not have the same firing order as a roller h.o the firing order on mine is 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 if yours does have the same then you dont have a h.o either.From what Ive read a h.o has a firing order of 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
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no, IT IS A ROLLER BLOCK AND HAS THE SAME FIRING ORDER! damnet, quit giving out crap info people! as fo rpower, it was 200 BHP@ 4000 RPM and 285 ft pounds@ 3000 RPM
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This isnt even a 86 mustang h.o this has the firing order out of a non roller 302 like a truck or a crown vic.What can I do?
This isnt even a 86 mustang h.o this has the firing order out of a non roller 302 like a truck or a crown vic.What can I do?
07-14-2006, 03:30 AM
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RE: very dissapointed PLEASE HELP
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No it does not have the same firing order as a roller h.o the firing order on mine is 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 if yours does have the same then you dont have a h.o either.From what Ive read a h.o has a firing order of 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
No it does not have the same firing order as a roller h.o the firing order on mine is 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 if yours does have the same then you dont have a h.o either.From what Ive read a h.o has a firing order of 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
ORIGINAL: Twister
no, IT IS A ROLLER BLOCK AND HAS THE SAME FIRING ORDER! damnet, quit giving out crap info people! as fo rpower, it was 200 BHP@ 4000 RPM and 285 ft pounds@ 3000 RPM
ORIGINAL: kevinek
This isnt even a 86 mustang h.o this has the firing order out of a non roller 302 like a truck or a crown vic.What can I do?
This isnt even a 86 mustang h.o this has the firing order out of a non roller 302 like a truck or a crown vic.What can I do?
07-14-2006, 03:39 AM
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RE: very dissapointed PLEASE HELP
ORIGINAL: Twister
You do not have a H.O. engine, what is your VIN?
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No it does not have the same firing order as a roller h.o the firing order on mine is 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 if yours does have the same then you dont have a h.o either.From what Ive read a h.o has a firing order of 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
No it does not have the same firing order as a roller h.o the firing order on mine is 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 if yours does have the same then you dont have a h.o either.From what Ive read a h.o has a firing order of 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
ORIGINAL: Twister
no, IT IS A ROLLER BLOCK AND HAS THE SAME FIRING ORDER! damnet, quit giving out crap info people! as fo rpower, it was 200 BHP@ 4000 RPM and 285 ft pounds@ 3000 RPM
ORIGINAL: kevinek
This isnt even a 86 mustang h.o this has the firing order out of a non roller 302 like a truck or a crown vic.What can I do?
This isnt even a 86 mustang h.o this has the firing order out of a non roller 302 like a truck or a crown vic.What can I do?
07-14-2006, 03:42 AM
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RE: very dissapointed PLEASE HELP
ORIGINAL: myshifter
read his first post, the motor was replaced and the remanufacturer doesnt do year specific remans
ORIGINAL: Twister
You do not have a H.O. engine, what is your VIN?
ORIGINAL: kevinek
No it does not have the same firing order as a roller h.o the firing order on mine is 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 if yours does have the same then you dont have a h.o either.From what Ive read a h.o has a firing order of 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
No it does not have the same firing order as a roller h.o the firing order on mine is 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 if yours does have the same then you dont have a h.o either.From what Ive read a h.o has a firing order of 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
ORIGINAL: Twister
no, IT IS A ROLLER BLOCK AND HAS THE SAME FIRING ORDER! damnet, quit giving out crap info people! as fo rpower, it was 200 BHP@ 4000 RPM and 285 ft pounds@ 3000 RPM
ORIGINAL: kevinek
This isnt even a 86 mustang h.o this has the firing order out of a non roller 302 like a truck or a crown vic.What can I do?
This isnt even a 86 mustang h.o this has the firing order out of a non roller 302 like a truck or a crown vic.What can I do?
07-14-2006, 04:46 AM
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RE: very dissapointed PLEASE HELP
I know several people that have done efi swaps on bronco's and other trucks. the biggest problem with a mismatched firing order and injection order is a small loss of torque below around 1500 rpm's and also a slightly rough idle, after changing the pin out to the injectors the idle smoothed back out and the torque was regained.