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Should I just get an LS1?

Old 07-22-2006, 07:19 AM
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hmmm that's around 10k including the car ....so unless you paid 5k worth of labor, something's missing here [&:]

in any case, i don't really care how much you invested. bottom line is a 5spd fox runs mid 14s bone stock (unless it's a vert), so yeah there's definetly something wrong with it if it runs 14.4 with major engine and suspension mods. what model is it anyways ?
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Old 07-22-2006, 08:41 AM
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With all due respect, NO SH&T!!!!!! and that is why I am ready to throw the whole Idea of a mustang out the window and go back to the dark side where I came from. At least with my Trans AM, girls liked the car, and it actually performed as advertised. This mustang does nothing for me at this point other than slurp gas and make me feel like a retard when my friends say "we told you they sucked"
In Mustang's defense, I'll say this. You should see the looks I get driving this thing. I'm a Chevy man at heart myself, but Mustangs are just sexy. They always have been. GM has been owning the track up to this point, I agree, but this car I have now is finally making me a believer of Ford's potential. The things they have done with this little 281 is nice. Go drive the new one yourself. Don't listen to the GM boyz cuz they are just not ready to give up the bragging rights just yet. I've let one LS1 owner drive my car. He bought an 06 about a month later. Below is what his driveway looks like now. That should tell you something

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Old 07-22-2006, 09:51 AM
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i think undefeated makes a very valuable point with his sig right about now.
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Old 07-22-2006, 10:56 AM
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I've let one LS1 owner drive my car. He bought an 06 about a month later. Below is what his driveway looks like now. That should tell you something

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Old 07-22-2006, 11:57 AM
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The only thing I can think of is the carb. I went from pulling an 00' A4 Z28 75-105 by 1 car on the freeway EFI (ran like crap) to pulling those times carbed. We think the carburetor is not opening fully on the back barrels.
Did you visually check to see if the secondaries are opening?
Also, did you check your distributor's timing curve, and change the fuel filter?
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:58 AM
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No one who buys an LS1 regrets it. Although I think that your Fox has some potential (Low curb weight anyone?) once you get the bugs worked out.
It has forged pistons, right?[sm=nxsmile.gif]
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Old 07-22-2006, 01:50 PM
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Yes, I have probe forged flat-tops.

There is no way to visually check the secondaries except to sit under the hood wile running down the track and my nuts arent that big.

Holley states that on a 350ci motor with NO AIR FILTER the secondaries fully open at 5700rpm with the spring im using (there is no lighter one) and I have a 302 (less airflow over the ports that open the secondaries) and I have an air filter.

Also, this car used to hang with C5's when I was EFI. I think once I get the right carb on it should do it again, heck, 20 miles before it got to the shop for teh carb conversion I killed an 00 A4 Z28 bu 1 car from 75-105.

I am just frustrated I guess, as is my friend, he has a 5.0 with full drag Eiboch suspension, full bolt ons, TFS twisted wedge heads, LT's, gears, and he runs [email protected] HE has my same carburetor, EXACT same....I see a pattern of failure here.

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Old 07-22-2006, 02:03 PM
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you have 2 issues

#1 how the hell does your fox car weigh 3500lbs? you have your weight lifting set in the trunk?


#2 vacume secondaries suck for the track. there is no way the seconds are opening all the way. get your self a nice double pummper and it will fly. that berry grant 575 should help a ton.


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Old 07-22-2006, 02:52 PM
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The only thing I can think of is the carb. I went from pulling an 00' A4 Z28 75-105 by 1 car on the freeway EFI (ran like crap) to pulling those times carbed. We think the carburetor is not opening fully on the back barrels. We have ordered a 575 BG mechanical carb and this SHOULD! put me back where I belong in the scheme of things.

I am just looking for opinions as some ppl say that this is all a 302 is good for and its hard not to belive them I dunno, just VERY pissed off at having spent 15K and having an almost show ready vehicle with all these new parts and being better off with my 95' 170K mile trans am (I know my mustang will never handle or look half as good as it did, but at LEAST it should be faster dammit )

If indeed it is the carburetor, I shall once again be happy with the thing, if not, I fear a certain insurance company and a random oak tree will hate me for a very long time.

I just dont know how it could be this slow, then again, my friend has the same setup EXACTLY except LT's,Trickflow WEdge heads, and 3.73's instead of 4.10's and an electric fan and better suspension and he ran [email protected] and he catches the same laughter from GM owners I do. He has the SAME EXACT CARB (670 Holley Street Avenger with yellow spring in secondary pod) and I know he should be 12's, he also has no power over 3-3500rpm and I think fully it is my carb

I just wanted to make sure I had not been mislead by a bunch of people trying to sell me crap and built a total turd.




Just wondering, is there a reason you donot want to go F/I? or Nitrous? The reason I ask you ask should I get an LS1? As you know thats not a fare comparsion, I am pretty sure if you went with the same year camero though your times would be better you sound like you want better times. go with s/c or turbo set up or N2O
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Old 07-22-2006, 03:37 PM
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#2 vacume secondaries suck for the track.
You don't need to qualify that statement. Vacuum secondaries plain suck.

The root of your problem is a bad mechanic, no offense. The carb definitely doesn't match the engine, and the carb definitely isn't set up properly. You could always go with the lightest spring for the secondaries. But you are making the right step going to a mechanical secondary. If you're worried about fuel economy, which I doubt with that list, you could always change the primary metering block to the econo model and retune the secondaries. Carbs may seem simple, but getting them to perform is anything but simple. You may want to spend some time in a dyno shop tuning that thing up a bit.

BTW, did you check the cam timing before you dropped the engine in?
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