MY SHORTBLOCK IS IN QUESTIONS!
09-15-2006, 12:09 PM
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RE: MY SHORTBLOCK IS IN QUESTIONS!
hey guys, im having trouble finding a
STARTER INDEX PLATE, the big and thin chrome plate inbetween engine and tranny, I know it hs other names, but i cant find it on several parts websites[:'(]
STARTER INDEX PLATE, the big and thin chrome plate inbetween engine and tranny, I know it hs other names, but i cant find it on several parts websites[:'(]
09-15-2006, 01:34 PM
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RE: maybeE this is better than Oreo Cookies
I accidently removed the timing chain gear during inspection and need to realign the cam and crank, so Im assuming you just but number one cylinder at TDC , crank key 1200 o clock, cam key and hole 6 o clock and chain back on?
you see the cylinders, nice wear cross pattern still there
crank shiny and smooth
crank berings shiny and smooth
pistons look like 20k old
timing chain and shortblock look young.
the lifters and gallers are filthy and cruded somewhat, but oven cleaner took care of that, and im takeing aprt the lifters ONE BY ONE and cleaning them by hand with brake cleaner.
I decided to keep the overhaul kits and repalce everything anyway, because I know you can see a .10 + gaps with your naked eye. but I bet as a mechanic and all my ears, this car BURT OIL BAD, DUE TO NOT OIL CHANGING and BAD VALVE seals as the crud was like THICK JELLO near the valley.
I have acetone and ALOT of shop rags and am getting busy, these old headgaskets are kickin my but!
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you see the cylinders, nice wear cross pattern still there
crank shiny and smooth
crank berings shiny and smooth
pistons look like 20k old
timing chain and shortblock look young.
the lifters and gallers are filthy and cruded somewhat, but oven cleaner took care of that, and im takeing aprt the lifters ONE BY ONE and cleaning them by hand with brake cleaner.
I decided to keep the overhaul kits and repalce everything anyway, because I know you can see a .10 + gaps with your naked eye. but I bet as a mechanic and all my ears, this car BURT OIL BAD, DUE TO NOT OIL CHANGING and BAD VALVE seals as the crud was like THICK JELLO near the valley.
I have acetone and ALOT of shop rags and am getting busy, these old headgaskets are kickin my but!
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09-15-2006, 01:56 PM
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RE: maybeE this is better than Oreo Cookies
Im having trouble finding a code, and this block is a 302 but appear somewhat a little stranger or im going crazy
I found hencho en mexico stamped in my lifter gallery lol what the fck is that, I wonder who took the time to put that there, its is not on my other block,
anyhow whatsup with this cam in sync with crank above was a right? or should i advance or retard with the stock cam?
I found hencho en mexico stamped in my lifter gallery lol what the fck is that, I wonder who took the time to put that there, its is not on my other block,
anyhow whatsup with this cam in sync with crank above was a right? or should i advance or retard with the stock cam?
09-15-2006, 04:22 PM
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RE: maybeE this is better than Oreo Cookies
cam sync? though
number one tdc, crank 1200 cam 6 o clock both intake and exhaust valves closed at number one tdc ??
"hencho en mexico" thats all i seein my lifter gallery after cleaning, its heavier then my other block
number one tdc, crank 1200 cam 6 o clock both intake and exhaust valves closed at number one tdc ??
"hencho en mexico" thats all i seein my lifter gallery after cleaning, its heavier then my other block
09-15-2006, 04:44 PM
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RE: maybeE this is better than Oreo Cookies
yes, both the valves should be closed. Does it not say 302W? I dont know the difference in mexican blocks, and american ones. Maybe the mexican one is better!!
09-15-2006, 05:11 PM
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RE: maybeE this is better than Oreo Cookies
Holy !@#$,
How is it that you walk into some random yard and find a Mexican 302 block in perfect running condition!
There are guys that spend months looking for something like this!
The Mexican blocks are much stonger than the standard 302. I believe the main webs were thicker, and the Mexican block did have a higher nickel content.
There should also be 2 useless looking ***** on the front end of the block, near the water pump holes, I think.
I'm not sure I can speak to you anymore. LOL
The cam timing should be pretty straight forward. You should see a dot on the cam gear, and a dot on the crank gear. Line the 2 dots up, and your set.
You may want to check out the cam though. If a performance guy owned the motor, it may have a decent cam in it. It would be nice to verify the firing order of the cam too.
Your one lucky dude. If this block is in good shape, it will be able to handle comparable power to a 351w block.
jason
How is it that you walk into some random yard and find a Mexican 302 block in perfect running condition!
There are guys that spend months looking for something like this!
The Mexican blocks are much stonger than the standard 302. I believe the main webs were thicker, and the Mexican block did have a higher nickel content.
There should also be 2 useless looking ***** on the front end of the block, near the water pump holes, I think.
I'm not sure I can speak to you anymore. LOL
The cam timing should be pretty straight forward. You should see a dot on the cam gear, and a dot on the crank gear. Line the 2 dots up, and your set.
You may want to check out the cam though. If a performance guy owned the motor, it may have a decent cam in it. It would be nice to verify the firing order of the cam too.
Your one lucky dude. If this block is in good shape, it will be able to handle comparable power to a 351w block.
jason