musclemustang94

Anyone know of a long tube that doesn't sell for 400 bucks and isn't a piece of crap?

88scgt

keep the shorties easier to work on car

musclemustang94

yeah but shorties dont give you the torque of a long header.

LTnone

BBK. And long tubes will be more efficient after ~350bhp, before that you'll lose low end torque. IMO, if you plan on continuing the modding, the temporary/small loss of power is worth not having to buy/install new headers a little while down the road

88scgt

personaly i dont think there is that much difference granted i am blown but i have had both on my car, and i dunno bout you but i find myself changing header gaskets alot. i would keep shorties unless it is on a drag car and you are running open headers

94ford5liter

Long tubes made a pretty big difference on my car, i believe this because of my dyno numbers. Most guys who run afr165s with my setup make around 300rwhp, and I made 322rwhp with a smog cam through cats. However, they are only good on a car that is making a decent amount of power like 300 crank horsepower or more. Otherwise they make the car loose low end torque like said above.

88scgt

they are just a pain to get to the starer, trans i just dont like them. i just dont think they make that big of difference imo

94ford5liter

yea they are definitely more of a pain i agree with you there, and due to the 02 sensors being down further, I have to give mine gas to get it to start a lot of the time, and dies a lot at idle.

88scgt

unless open i hate them, i had them on my car when i bought it and i hated them. our drag cars have them but there is no exhaust to get in way and there is nothin in engine bay. just a pain in the a##

frdmstng1986GT

that is a myth actually.. long tubes will not kill youre power down low. long tubes actually produce more low end power on 99% of the cars they are bolted on to then shorties will.. i have actually seen shorties loose power over a stock exhaust header on a basicly stock mustang before.. i'll be it it was only 2-3 hp and 1-2 ft\lbs but it was still a loss.. bolt on long tubes on the very same car then it gained like5 hp and 11ft-lbs of torque. i am sorry that i can not prove this as it was over 5 years ago when i was going to uti in illinois.