89 LX 5-speed; 56mph @ 1500 rpm = 3.73?
#1
89 LX 5-speed; 56mph @ 1500 rpm = 3.73?
I do not have the ability to jack the car up and spin the wheels to count driveshaft rotation but I am started to suspect I have non-stock gearing in my new-to-me 89 LX 5.0 Convertible 5-speed.I verifed thegear is stripped on the maroon "wine color" 16 tooth stock speedo gear so it is bouncing all over.I am currently using a Gamin NUVI for my speedo and want to fix the gear but need a bit if info: I read that 15mph in first is 1000rpm for stock and 2000rpm for 3.73. I do 1900rpm at 15 mph but I am only running 1500rpm at 55mph in 5thand could not see how it could be lower. Any advice on what gearing you think I have is much appreciated so I can fix it right the first time.
Thank you in advance.
Thank you in advance.
#4
RE: 89 LX 5-speed; 56mph @ 1500 rpm = 3.73?
there are 2 different gear sets for the T-5 one set uses a 2:95 first gear and the other is a 3:35.
Both use different gear ratios for 1 - 3 and 5th all 4th gears in every manual transmission I can think of is 1:1:get a RPM to speed in 4th is most accurate way to try and figure your rear gear size. but even in that case your over all tire diameter can cause a small to large error in speedometer accuracy. I created a spreadsheet on my computer where I could put in tire diameter, rear gear size, and each gear ratio 1 - 6th gear to give me a computed speed for engine rpm (ok i'm a geek).
using the 2 T5 1st gear ratio's plus 3:55 & 3:73 gear sets and 25.5 inches diameter tire(average for stock size for mustangs 225/60 - 15, I run 245/45 -17 same diameter +/- .25 inches) here is what I came up with.
2:95 first gear 1900rpm (most likely gear set for an 89)
3:55 - 13.76 MPH <--- most likely what you have
3:73 - 13.10 MPH
3:35 first gear 1900rpm
3:55 - 12.12 MPH
3:73 - 11.53 MPH
Both use different gear ratios for 1 - 3 and 5th all 4th gears in every manual transmission I can think of is 1:1:get a RPM to speed in 4th is most accurate way to try and figure your rear gear size. but even in that case your over all tire diameter can cause a small to large error in speedometer accuracy. I created a spreadsheet on my computer where I could put in tire diameter, rear gear size, and each gear ratio 1 - 6th gear to give me a computed speed for engine rpm (ok i'm a geek).
using the 2 T5 1st gear ratio's plus 3:55 & 3:73 gear sets and 25.5 inches diameter tire(average for stock size for mustangs 225/60 - 15, I run 245/45 -17 same diameter +/- .25 inches) here is what I came up with.
2:95 first gear 1900rpm (most likely gear set for an 89)
3:55 - 13.76 MPH <--- most likely what you have
3:73 - 13.10 MPH
3:35 first gear 1900rpm
3:55 - 12.12 MPH
3:73 - 11.53 MPH
#5
RE: 89 LX 5-speed; 56mph @ 1500 rpm = 3.73?
Additional info for T5 gear ratios if you want to try and figure it out your self
T5 gear sets
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th R
3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68 3.15
2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63 2.76
using your 5th gear rpm to speed 1500rpm at 55mph in 5th
3:55 / 0.63 - 50.87mph
3:55 / 0.68 - 47.13mph
3:73 / 0.63 - 48.42mph
3:73 / 0.68 - 44.86mph
one thing I found on a T5 site was according to them you could actually have the 3:55 gear set T5, the 2:95 started getting used in 90.
with what you said
here is something interesting I ran up in my spread sheet.
with 3:35 first gear and 0.68 5th and a 3:08 (a factory optional rear gear in some years)!
1st gear @ 1900rpm = 13.97MPH
5th gear @ 1500rpm = 54.32MPH
check the tag on your T5 and hit this site to ID your transmission
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/Detailed/349.shtml
T5 gear sets
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th R
3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68 3.15
2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63 2.76
using your 5th gear rpm to speed 1500rpm at 55mph in 5th
3:55 / 0.63 - 50.87mph
3:55 / 0.68 - 47.13mph
3:73 / 0.63 - 48.42mph
3:73 / 0.68 - 44.86mph
one thing I found on a T5 site was according to them you could actually have the 3:55 gear set T5, the 2:95 started getting used in 90.
with what you said
I do 1900rpm at 15 mph but I am only running 1500rpm at 55mph in 5th
with 3:35 first gear and 0.68 5th and a 3:08 (a factory optional rear gear in some years)!
1st gear @ 1900rpm = 13.97MPH
5th gear @ 1500rpm = 54.32MPH
check the tag on your T5 and hit this site to ID your transmission
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/Detailed/349.shtml
#6
RE: 89 LX 5-speed; 56mph @ 1500 rpm = 3.73?
2.73..... autos came with 3.73s maybe 3.55 but im pretty sure stock gears are 2.73 on all gt t5 cars till 93 stating from 85 but anyway i am at the same as u and i know i have 2.73s with posi so it cant be 3.73s
#7
RE: 89 LX 5-speed; 56mph @ 1500 rpm = 3.73?
ORIGINAL: 351w8bang93stang
2.73..... autos came with 3.73s maybe 3.55 but im pretty sure stock gears are 2.73 on all gt t5 cars till 93 stating from 85 but anyway i am at the same as u and i know i have 2.73s with posi so it cant be 3.73s
2.73..... autos came with 3.73s maybe 3.55 but im pretty sure stock gears are 2.73 on all gt t5 cars till 93 stating from 85 but anyway i am at the same as u and i know i have 2.73s with posi so it cant be 3.73s
I havent checked to see what rpms am at at 56mphs, but it sounds like 3.08s to me. 5-Spds came with either 2.73s or 3.08, Autos got 3.27s, doesnt matter if its LX(5.0) or GT,
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#8
RE: 89 LX 5-speed; 56mph @ 1500 rpm = 3.73?
yeah i wasnt sure, but my 93 auto has 3.73s.
i knew his couldnt be 3.73s, i dont think any t5 came with 3.73s stock??? do u know"? i was told that they did it on the a4ld 4 banger cars cus of the extra gear (4) overdrive and to help the car on take off.
i do about 1500-1600 at 60mph with 2.73s
i knew his couldnt be 3.73s, i dont think any t5 came with 3.73s stock??? do u know"? i was told that they did it on the a4ld 4 banger cars cus of the extra gear (4) overdrive and to help the car on take off.
i do about 1500-1600 at 60mph with 2.73s
ORIGINAL: 86 5.0L
sorry but thats wrong
I havent checked to see what rpms am at at 56mphs, but it sounds like 3.08s to me. Autos came with either 2.73s or 3.08, 5-Spds got 2.73s, doesnt matter if its LX(5.0) or GT,
EDIT:
ORIGINAL: 351w8bang93stang
2.73..... autos came with 3.73s maybe 3.55 but im pretty sure stock gears are 2.73 on all gt t5 cars till 93 stating from 85 but anyway i am at the same as u and i know i have 2.73s with posi so it cant be 3.73s
2.73..... autos came with 3.73s maybe 3.55 but im pretty sure stock gears are 2.73 on all gt t5 cars till 93 stating from 85 but anyway i am at the same as u and i know i have 2.73s with posi so it cant be 3.73s
I havent checked to see what rpms am at at 56mphs, but it sounds like 3.08s to me. Autos came with either 2.73s or 3.08, 5-Spds got 2.73s, doesnt matter if its LX(5.0) or GT,
EDIT:
#9
RE: 89 LX 5-speed; 56mph @ 1500 rpm = 3.73?
ORIGINAL: 351w8bang93stang
yeah i wasnt sure, but my 93 auto has 3.73s.
i knew his couldnt be 3.73s, i dont think any t5 came with 3.73s stock??? do u know"? i was told that they did it on the a4ld 4 banger cars cus of the extra gear (4) overdrive and to help the car on take off.
i do about 1500-1600 at 60mph with 2.73s
yeah i wasnt sure, but my 93 auto has 3.73s.
i knew his couldnt be 3.73s, i dont think any t5 came with 3.73s stock??? do u know"? i was told that they did it on the a4ld 4 banger cars cus of the extra gear (4) overdrive and to help the car on take off.
i do about 1500-1600 at 60mph with 2.73s
ALL 85(86?)-93 AOD equipped 5.0s came with 3.27s
#10
RE: 89 LX 5-speed; 56mph @ 1500 rpm = 3.73?
yeah cus the a4ld has an extra gear compared to the aod so that makes sense so only 4 bangers with the a4ld are going to have 3.73 stock gears and their not posi anyway, so rather useless unless used with a turbo 4 motor and t5! then might be fun for a one legger,lol
ORIGINAL: 86 5.0L
ALL 85(86?)-93 T5 equiped 5.0s came with 2.73s, 3.08s were optional
ALL 85(86?)-93 AOD equipped 5.0s came with 3.27s
ORIGINAL: 351w8bang93stang
yeah i wasnt sure, but my 93 auto has 3.73s.
i knew his couldnt be 3.73s, i dont think any t5 came with 3.73s stock??? do u know"? i was told that they did it on the a4ld 4 banger cars cus of the extra gear (4) overdrive and to help the car on take off.
i do about 1500-1600 at 60mph with 2.73s
yeah i wasnt sure, but my 93 auto has 3.73s.
i knew his couldnt be 3.73s, i dont think any t5 came with 3.73s stock??? do u know"? i was told that they did it on the a4ld 4 banger cars cus of the extra gear (4) overdrive and to help the car on take off.
i do about 1500-1600 at 60mph with 2.73s
ALL 85(86?)-93 AOD equipped 5.0s came with 3.27s
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