Afr's are on!
05-18-2007, 11:46 AM
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RE: Afr's are on!
canfields have big valves, you can run an off the shelf cam just fine with them as long as you have large enough valve pockets in the pistons. if not they will need to be flycut, no custom cam needed. there no different than any standard inline valve wedge head out there.
05-18-2007, 01:54 PM
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RE: Afr's are on!
ORIGINAL: dman302
. Jay's cams have been responsible for some astounding engines...perhapse your 'buddy' should have contacted Jay to inquire about his lack of output. Saying he didn't put in the effort is rediculous...if your buddy described the parts he was going to use and informed Jay of what he wanted the you can be assured he did his best to meet the requests.
ORIGINAL: Blck92GT
I made the numbers in my sig with AFR 165s, Peformer intake and TFS 1 cam, while my good buddy did TWs, systemax intake and Jay Allen cam and made 289/298.He bought the TWs cause after researching most everyone says they are the better head over 165's, and went with the Jay Allen cam because he wanted to make the best numbers he could. Lets just say he was pissed and I would be too when my off the shelf combo made 16hp and 42lbs/tq more than his at the wheels when he spent a good $200 more on the cam than me. The only differences between our motors besides the HCI is his 70mm TB vs my 65mm TB....we both have JLT intakes, LMAFS, same tuner and everything else supporting is the same.
Maybe Jay didnt give his best effort when designing my buddy's cam or maybe the combo is a little too big for a 302, who knows; I just know unless its an all out race motor where every hp makes a difference I will go with an OTS cam anyday. Hell I paid $120 for my cam brand new from some guy off corral and made much more respectable numbers than my boy who shelled out $300+ for a "magic stick" that made **** for power.
Edit: And if you couldnt tell, AFRs get my vote as long as the springs are upgraded
I made the numbers in my sig with AFR 165s, Peformer intake and TFS 1 cam, while my good buddy did TWs, systemax intake and Jay Allen cam and made 289/298.He bought the TWs cause after researching most everyone says they are the better head over 165's, and went with the Jay Allen cam because he wanted to make the best numbers he could. Lets just say he was pissed and I would be too when my off the shelf combo made 16hp and 42lbs/tq more than his at the wheels when he spent a good $200 more on the cam than me. The only differences between our motors besides the HCI is his 70mm TB vs my 65mm TB....we both have JLT intakes, LMAFS, same tuner and everything else supporting is the same.
Maybe Jay didnt give his best effort when designing my buddy's cam or maybe the combo is a little too big for a 302, who knows; I just know unless its an all out race motor where every hp makes a difference I will go with an OTS cam anyday. Hell I paid $120 for my cam brand new from some guy off corral and made much more respectable numbers than my boy who shelled out $300+ for a "magic stick" that made **** for power.
Edit: And if you couldnt tell, AFRs get my vote as long as the springs are upgraded
The main reason I didn't go with a custom grind cam is because I know this is not the last setup I'll be running in my car...
05-18-2007, 06:08 PM
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RE: Afr's are on!
ORIGINAL: dman302
. Jay's cams have been responsible for some astounding engines...perhapse your 'buddy' should have contacted Jay to inquire about his lack of output. Saying he didn't put in the effort is rediculous...if your buddy described the parts he was going to use and informed Jay of what he wanted the you can be assured he did his best to meet the requests.
. Jay's cams have been responsible for some astounding engines...perhapse your 'buddy' should have contacted Jay to inquire about his lack of output. Saying he didn't put in the effort is rediculous...if your buddy described the parts he was going to use and informed Jay of what he wanted the you can be assured he did his best to meet the requests.
FWIW im not bad mouthing any custom cam builders....im just saying from my experience I will go with an off the shelf over a custom anyday unless its a race motor where every hp counts.
05-19-2007, 10:24 PM
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RE: Afr's are on!
ORIGINAL: hatchdemon89
wow this thread became bullshhh lol im sorrie was just giving people a heads up on the afr's lol thats all someone delete this lol
wow this thread became bullshhh lol im sorrie was just giving people a heads up on the afr's lol thats all someone delete this lol
05-19-2007, 10:40 PM
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RE: Afr's are on!
ORIGINAL: Texas5.0
hatchdemon needs a few grammer lessons. It takes to much energy to read what he wrote I'm to tired to remember what he was talking about.
hatchdemon needs a few grammer lessons. It takes to much energy to read what he wrote I'm to tired to remember what he was talking about.
05-19-2007, 10:51 PM
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RE: Afr's are on!
ORIGINAL: Twisted
Trust me, your grammar and spelling isn't much better.
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hatchdemon needs a few grammer lessons. It takes to much energy to read what he wrote I'm to tired to remember what he was talking about.
hatchdemon needs a few grammer lessons. It takes to much energy to read what he wrote I'm to tired to remember what he was talking about.
05-19-2007, 10:56 PM
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RE: Afr's are on!
ORIGINAL: BlackLX
LOL, I always think it's funny when someone comments on someone else's grammar when they can't even spell grammar themselves.
ORIGINAL: Twisted
Trust me, your grammar and spelling isn't much better.
ORIGINAL: Texas5.0
hatchdemon needs a few grammer lessons. It takes to much energy to read what he wrote I'm to tired to remember what he was talking about.
hatchdemon needs a few grammer lessons. It takes to much energy to read what he wrote I'm to tired to remember what he was talking about.
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