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Old 06-11-2007, 10:26 PM
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my car seems to cycle or surge at idle and tehn stalls unless i give teh car some gas. dosent make difference if cold or hot. its a 95 gt 5.0. what should i relpace first? how can i diagnose?
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:38 PM
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do your koeo and koer tests first. see what codes it is giving you, go from there, may want to clean your maf also.
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:05 AM
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hey i have that same problem. only difference is mine is a 87 thunderbird. i rebuilt the motor and now has the HO firing order. could it be the computer or something stupid im overlooking. i ran the tests on it and i got both 02 sensors and something about the voltage to the egr was above closed limit. ive read the i might have to switch the order that the injectors are fired due to the new firing order. any ideas
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:05 AM
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just cleaned maf and excuse my newbness but what are and how do u do those tests that your talking about?
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:21 AM
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I bought a code scanner for my car. reads all fords 83 i believe and up. of course i got it in like 96 so hard tellin how far up it really goes.
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:39 AM
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I bought a code scanner for my car. reads all fords 83 i believe and up. of course i got it in like 96 so hard tellin how far up it really goes.
its porbably an OBD1 port so after 95 fords switched to OBD2 so u woulnt be able to read ne new than 95 unless it have multiply attachments to hook it up

as for the surge have u move the distrubutor ne?? such as change timing or taking it out???
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Old 06-12-2007, 10:54 PM
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well i pulled the codes with the scanner at school today and found other problems. the car has a siezed egr valve so the guy before me took out the check engine light. what an ***.anyway i think the car needs a tune up with plugs and wires as tehy are both origional with 84000 on them. anybody do an egr valve on these, and where can i get one for cheap?
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Old 06-13-2007, 01:07 AM
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hey i have that same problem. only difference is mine is a 87 thunderbird. i rebuilt the motor and now has the HO firing order. could it be the computer or something stupid im overlooking. i ran the tests on it and i got both 02 sensors and something about the voltage to the egr was above closed limit. ive read the i might have to switch the order that the injectors are fired due to the new firing order. any ideas
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Sidetrack for a second.. you didn't use the non-HO computer with rewired injectors, did you?
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Old 06-13-2007, 02:21 AM
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i havnt rewired the injectors yet. not sure if thats what i needed to do. and for crazy cobra speed. i just put the motor in so the distributor is where i put it after rebuild. the cam i got said to time at around 10 degree btdc. but i have it at almost 30 for it to run. thats why im a lil confused.
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Old 06-13-2007, 10:01 AM
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where can you buy a code scanner? does the autopart sell it? does it plug into your test port under the hood by the driver side firewall?
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