CrazyCobraSpeed

i mite being goin up too clinton illinois to get my car tuned ... one in town sux and there is one an hour away that isnt much better from what i have heard.... do u guys think its work a 4 hour drive up there??? i am interested in gettin a PMS system but i wanted them to show me how to use it and give me a basic starter tune... also do u think driving an untuned car four hours is a good idea... im thinking now.. but my uncles trailer is out od service as of now so id have to hire some1 to take it up there and with the rising price of gas it might not be a cheap 4 hour delivry... also should i even get hte PMS setup or just get a basic cheap and tune??

samseed101

Personally I'd rather have the Tweecer RT. But If my only choices were between the PMS and a chip / tune, then I'd go with the PMS.

94IVGT

ive got the PMS and its great and the drive is worth it. its a two hours drive for me but they know theyre ****. im sure theyre is gonna be an argument over the PMS vs the Tweecer in here. they both can control the car unlimited changes and tunes. the pms has a controller with a digital screen the tweecer requires a laptop. price comes out to be about the same for the PMS or the Tweecer with a laptop. i would recommend the PMS. Rick can give you the full info on the PMS if youv got more questions on it or check out the makers page at www.efisystems.com

AdderMk2

stay away from the PMS... its a piece of ****...

get a dyno tune with an SCT bank chip

w8less

tkae it speedys it'll be worth it. they do a good job for it being a small town.

luckythirteen13

the pms is great and very easy to use. you wont have any problems driving it 4 hours without a tune just stay off the gas peddle.

as far as the debait over which is better, there are too many factor to decide. its all personal preference. i have the pms but if i were to buy a stand alone id buy a FAST system. the pms, tweecer, megasquirt, AEM, etc, they are all garbage compared to the FAST system and BS3

7upedition

well i'm no tuner expert, but i'd say trailer that car, even if you have to rent a uhaul car trailer for a day, they're pretty cheap, and no mileage to count. as for tuning i'd listen to these guys ^^^

samseed101

I hear that argument all the time and it never makes any sense. I can't believe people still try to use that as an argument for buying the PMS.

Okay, so lets say that you do buy a laptop and the price comes out to be exactly the same. Are you saying that that makes it equal? What can you do with the PMS besides tune the car? Absolutely nothing. What can you do with the laptop besides tune the car? Watch movies, Burn CDs, DVDs, play music, surf the web, any countless other things. It's a stupid argument. Why would you want to pay the exact same price and get less functionality?

turbostang21

+1....save up and buyaf.a.s.t or big stuff 3 system or buya sct chip/tune. it can hold 4 tunes and drive like stock otherwise. i have seen 900+rwhp cars drive stockish using the a9l and a sct chip



btwwith your mods the worst tuner in the world shouldn't have a problem giving you a good tune

CrazyCobraSpeed

why is it a piece of ****... i heard its really ez to use and its pretty effective.... the price isnt great but the learn curve on other stuff makes me shy away


yea i already have a lab top newayz... i dont like hte learning curve i been hearing about... i dont mind have a labtop plugged in but u can keep the pms plugged in use the gauges it has on it... which saves u money on gauges... granted it doesnt look as good know...

i heard from a guy in town that speedy doesnt always do a good job and im afraid of messing something up... m friend said he knew some1... didnt give a name... but they tuned his car and something ****ed up and they wouldnt cover the cost.. said it was his fault cuz he didnt do the h/c/i rite... but he had a machanic help him out with the h/c/i so it was do correctly... i dunno im just not sure i wanna take the chance??? have u heard nethign about that?? ...

other think is when i but the s/c down the road i wanna be able to self too... i dont wanna have too keep taking to a tuner time and time again

im not goin to run enough hp on this car to make fast worth while.... but i do have a h/c/i with a shot of nitrous so a tuner could **** it up pretty good... thats not im my sig i know i just havent updated recently





basically im looking for somethign i can self tune with.... i dont wanna spend a ton... bascially a pms system with the cost of a tune is about my limit... which is about a grand.... which is a lil high i know.... i have a shot of nitrous and i plan on get a turbo or supercharger pretty so... like after i get suspension done and decide for sure what i want... with in a year.....