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tooslow5.0 09-07-2007 05:42 PM

cleveland heads on a '94 F.I. 5.0?
 
cleveland heads on a '94 Fuel injected5.0? is it possible? smog legal in cali? what are the benefits/problems running this setup? how much power do they make? the reason i ask is my boss has a set i can get for cheap. they are the 4v design with huge runners and closed wedge combustion chamber.

nitrous_bob 09-07-2007 06:36 PM

RE: cleveland heads on a '94 F.I. 5.0?
 
first off, no they are not

the smog law states that any part must be available in that model year on your particular model, since no mustang had a 351, you can't do it and for sure get away w/ it

second, will they work ? i'm sure they could but i doubt you'd even see a diff, your better off w/ gt 40 irons off a '93 cobra

after all the work you did, using old heads made to run leaded gas will not pay off in the end.

dooe casting '69/'70 windsor heads are gt40 heads basically, but same thing, need some work like hardened valve seats etc.

a head swap like that might get 15 hp box stock, 35 w/major port work, but you have as much or more than buying used aluminum heads.

yu can find them all day long for $800 or so, i have edelbrocks i'm selling right now $800, and my buddy has afr 165's for $1000 brand new


nmerrill 09-07-2007 07:08 PM

RE: cleveland heads on a '94 F.I. 5.0?
 
I dont think i have even seen a fuel injected cleveland equipped motor

my77stang 09-07-2007 10:56 PM

RE: cleveland heads on a '94 F.I. 5.0?
 
whats he asking for the heads? may be a good buy just to flip[8D]

btw, they are high revving screamer heads - too big for the street without port tongue/riser things which defeats the purpose of getting the 4V cleve heads to begin with.

they do look sexy as hell though

HACKGT350 09-07-2007 11:00 PM

RE: cleveland heads on a '94 F.I. 5.0?
 
they can be done however you have to have the block sent out for major machining. water passages need to be drilled and a bunch of other things. the original boss engines where 302's with cleavland heads on them. so in the end its not worth it at all.

samseed101 09-07-2007 11:45 PM

RE: cleveland heads on a '94 F.I. 5.0?
 

ORIGINAL: nitrous_bob

first off, no they are not

the smog law states that any part must be available in that model year on your particular model, since no mustang had a 351, you can't do it and for sure get away w/ it

second, will they work ? i'm sure they could but i doubt you'd even see a diff, your better off w/ gt 40 irons off a '93 cobra

after all the work you did, using old heads made to run leaded gas will not pay off in the end.

dooe casting '69/'70 windsor heads are gt40 heads basically, but same thing, need some work like hardened valve seats etc.

a head swap like that might get 15 hp box stock, 35 w/major port work, but you have as much or more than buying used aluminum heads.

yu can find them all day long for $800 or so, i have edelbrocks i'm selling right now $800, and my buddy has afr 165's for $1000 brand new


I don't know crap about CA laws, but I did have a question out of curiousity... If he had a 95 Mustang could he do it since they had some with a 351? Or is it model-specific? In that case, could he do it with a 95 Cobra or is that still not close enough for CA laws?

Gary H 09-08-2007 05:15 AM

RE: cleveland heads on a '94 F.I. 5.0?
 
1st question. What are you going to use for an intake?
2nd question. What are you going to use for exhaust?
3rd question. Do you have the $$$ to custom make the above?

;)

If you can get them cheap, buy them and then sell them and use the $$ to get a set of heads designed for the 302.

tooslow5.0 09-08-2007 08:54 AM

RE: cleveland heads on a '94 F.I. 5.0?
 
if there is machine work involved on the block, then im not gonna do it. i was just lookin to get some cheap perfomance heads. i probably would have done a ported typhoon intake and short tubes along with them. (combined with my existing mods) -----thanks for the advice everyone, i would have been pissed if i bought them and found out i had to machine my brand new block!;)

my77stang 09-08-2007 10:02 AM

RE: cleveland heads on a '94 F.I. 5.0?
 
its not so much the block machining, its the head machining thats tricky (turning a square water passage into a round hole so you can knock a freeze plug in it.

CHI makes intakes for carbs, so you'd have to use a spyder's elbow type thing and hook throttle body to that, and headers would be swap headers or custom. so yeah, its possible to do - but no, for what your doing its not the route to go.

jakeachy 09-08-2007 11:34 AM

RE: cleveland heads on a '94 F.I. 5.0?
 
there is no way that would work without a hell of alot of work and money.


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