superslow

i live in california, smog sucks!!!!! iknow an e303 will pass smog but what if i have longtubes with 2 cats?

dimebag

e303 passed in DE on whitefoxgt's car

i think lt's are illegal in CA right?

superslow

e303 is ca smog legal but i heard it wont pass with only 2 cats, any one heard of this?

redemption

correct i have e303 i tried to put my two high flow cats to pass and it failed so i put my stock pipes on and it passed and i live in ca =(

redemption

oh and long tubes wont pass in CA you will automaticly fail

superslow

thats gay!!!! i can get past visual as long as it passes out the pipe. so i was gonna do an e303 with longtubes n 2 highflow cats, just squashed that idea,

redemption

ya what im gonna do is keep my cam and get afr 165cc heads emission legal and get rpm performer 2 intake with vortech supercharger, i have bbk shorties with h-pipe and flow masters, i just swap the h everytime i go get smog and i pass. ya shorties are best you can do in CA

Hamutoff

-longtubes no pass in CA for efi cars no matter what
-e303 cam legal on otherwise stock engine
-afr heads with emission provisions legal on otherwise stock engine
-cats 2 or 4 well its absolutly illegal to tamper with cats whatsoever.... unless your car is xx years old/xx amount of miles (I think 80,000 miles and 10 or 12 years old) SO at that point you are allowed to get replacement cats provided they are in stock location (I think that on the 5.0 fox cars thats the 2nd set down towards rear of car) and they do the emission job right.

these parts that get EO 50 state cert. its expensive and time consuming for the companies. a very few get a few parts together or engine packages with an EO number....THIS IS THE ONLY WAY to be 100% legit in CA... each part as far as I know like the ford cam we're talking about is ok only on an otherwise stock engine. They have to test to get the CERT... do you think they could get a stock engine, test and prove and pay that that one part works, and then test it with every other concevible part with a 50 state EO,,,,,sadly NO!!
hell you cant even use a 1993 cobra intake on an otherwise stock 87-93 5.0 WTF the deal with that!!!! auggggh (yeah it has the egr build in and a bit different - still, whats the big deal)

gothand

Are you saying that you have a place that will sign you off on the visual as long as you pass the sniffer (which should be the spirit of the whole testing process in the first place, to reduce emissions).

Anyway, just because you have long tubes doesn't mean you wouldn't necessarily pass the sniffer. I'd be surprised if long tubes were a make or brake item on tailpipe emissions.

83gtragtop

Thats exactly what I always say. If you pass the sniffer then there should be no reason to look under the hood. If you fail then they should take a look. I passed with shorty headers that are CARB for an '86+ but not my '83 by just talking my way through it (pretty sure the guy knew I was full of it but let it go anyway).