1970coupe

How much of a pain in the *** is it to install full lengthlongtube headers on a 95 5.0 mustang and is it worth the money and labor to get those over the shorties or will they make minimal diffrence in hp/torq gain?
I am looking at bbk's site and it says that you have to unbolt the motor mounts and hoist the motor up on each side with a jackto install the headers.
That seems like a pain in the *** for the extra 150 bucks and 10+ hp.

FoxGT

I personally would never run them again after having to replace two clutches with some installed. Some people love them, some people hate them. Some brands may be different. I know on the two types i've delt with, getting the starter unbolted & off isn't too much fun.

Tberg725

Correct you have to unbolt the motor mounts and jack the motor up, personally I don't think they are that big of a pain to install if you know how to do it.

LTnone

They aren't hard at all. I put BBKs in a while back, just unbolted the mounts, jacked the engine up a little bit, and slid em in. One (driver's side, IIRC) drops in from the top, the other comes up from the bottom. Buddy and I did it in maybe an hour give or take. They shouldn't be causing clutch problems, and they're definitely worth the extra $$$.


Edit: don't ask my why I have a million apostrophes in my post... they won't go away.

945LSTANG

i believe he meant that it is a pain in the *** to install a new clutch with the LTs installed.

LTnone

Yep... probably. I can picture that a lot more readily.

nseoi

i havnt had to replace my clutch after i did my longtubes but im sure the only thing i will have to do would be loosen them up at the heads, not a big deal. the midpipe needs to be removed either way and it is easier to remove with longtubes so you win a little and you lose a little.

longtubes are the funk diggity

FoxGT

Yeah i didn't mean the clutch went bad because of the long tubes[8D]

Basically what I was getting at is the downside to them is if you have to take it off, you'll have to unbolt the header (some designs you may not have to) If you don't have to get down there then they're a good option.
Keep in mind I'm a person that has done 7 transmission swaps.... [8D] None of the transmissions went bad, it's just a preference thing... I drive with a 5 spd for a while, I get bored & want to switch back to auto & vise versa. With shorties that makes it a 2-3 hour swap, but I don't have to unbolt anything on the engine.

The long tubes went after the 2nd time of having to work with something down there. They're good if you don't have to get down there. I plan on switching to some on my '96, but i wont on my '89.

94StinkinLincoln

im going to be putting a set of accufabs in my 95 nect weekend, i got a guy with a 95 that has longs to help me, so i will let you know.

1970coupe

ok sounds great! Should i go with mac orbbk or are they about the same in quality and fit?