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Can't put my finger on it...and it's driving me nuts!!!

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Old 07-26-2008, 05:47 PM
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Ok...my last post I was having trouble with my 88 GT. It is running very poorly. There is alot of black smoke coming from the exhaust. While there is decent power when you mash the gas...it stumbles alot. At idle the motor shakes like it has a radical cam in it. And this all started after driving it to work a week ago where it ran fine and then went to go home and it ran like crap. Two days prior a friend told me when I got on it he could smell raw fuel as he drove behind me. I have checked and replaced all the plugs which were covered in black. I replaced the engine coolant temp sensor. I pulled the EGR and made sure it worked. I swapped out the MAP for a known good one. Replaced the ignition control module. Replaced the fuel pressure regulator. All this and no luck. Any suggestions?
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Old 07-26-2008, 07:02 PM
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sounds like you have an injector that is stuck open a little. pull up all your injectors and turn the key on so the pump primes the lines. look at all the injectors and see which one is leaking.
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Old 07-27-2008, 11:56 AM
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I was thinking that too, but I was hoping it wouldnt come to that.
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Old 07-27-2008, 03:23 PM
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:04 PM
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if an injector were hanging open that one plug would be black and wet with raw fuel..if all are black then it is something that affects the system as a whole not just one injector.....first I'd run a fuel pressure test then maybe a koer test to make sure no codes exist and if it misses / runs rough at idle pull wires one by one until you find a cylinder where pulling the wire doesn't create a load change and that way you can cover all bases and make sure issue is not a misfire
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:26 PM
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if an injector were hanging open that one plug would be black and wet with raw fuel..if all are black then it is something that affects the system as a whole not just one injector.....first I'd run a fuel pressure test then maybe a koer test to make sure no codes exist and if it misses / runs rough at idle pull wires one by one until you find a cylinder where pulling the wire doesn't create a load change and that way you can cover all bases and make sure issue is not a misfire
Thanks for the info. Yes, the plugs are not wet just black. I will try a KOER test tonight. I was having trouble getting any codes out of it. Joel50 sent me some info on that problem so I will check that out now. Thanks.
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Old 07-27-2008, 11:38 PM
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if an injector were hanging open that one plug would be black and wet with raw fuel..if all are black then it is something that affects the system as a whole not just one injector.....first I'd run a fuel pressure test then maybe a koer test to make sure no codes exist and if it misses / runs rough at idle pull wires one by one until you find a cylinder where pulling the wire doesn't create a load change and that way you can cover all bases and make sure issue is not a misfire
OK...ran the codes. Thanks tothose who showed me how. I got at 51-ECT signal is/was too high.22- MAP signal out of range. 53- TPS to high. 54- Intake air temp (IAT) signal high. 35- EVP - Engine RPM to low to test EGR or EVR - EVP sensor signal is/was high or PFE - Sensor signal is/was high. (Not sure ifmy 88 GT has EVP, EVR, or PFE)And lastly 67- nuetral safety switch sensor fault. So the question is where do I start?
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Old 08-21-2008, 09:53 PM
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Ok, after chasing down sensor after sensor I finally came across what the problem was. I pulled the EEC out and it smelled burnt. One new computer later and all is fine. And a friend told me to stop running 87 octane in it so I filled up on 93 and the car runs great. I dont know what caused the computer to crap[ out but its good now. Thanks again for all the info.
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glad to hear it's running good now!!!
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