5.0L (1979-1995) Mustang Technical discussions on 5.0 Liter Mustangs within. This does not include the 5.0 from the 2011 Mustang GT. That information is in the 2005-1011 section.

help, probably stupid problem after rebuild...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-22-2008, 10:12 AM
  #1  
pastfast125
4th Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
pastfast125's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location:
Posts: 1,097
Default help, probably stupid problem after rebuild...

Hey guys, just got my motor back in my car after rebuilding it. Having a problem though. It doesn't want to start, and I have fuel and spark. I forgot to put my timing pointer on, so to get #1 to TDC I used a coat hanger to feel for the top of the piston travel. I've used that method before with no problems, but maybe that's where I'm having my issues? Anyway, did that, set the rotor to fire #1, put it together and crank, and it won't start. I would think that method would atleast get it close enough for it to try to start, but it's not even sputtering or anything. Only thing it does is depending on where I have the dizzy the motor will get spinnin up to bout 1100 according to the tach, so it's like it's kinda firing and building up momentum maybe?

I dunno I'm not sure, but shouldn't I atleast be able to get some sort of life out of it with my base timing method? I know it's not as exact as the method in the tech section, but then that means I gotta go hunt down my timing pointer. I'd rather not do that till I see if you guys think that's my problem or what.

Thanks, sorry for my retarded question
pastfast125 is offline  
Old 08-22-2008, 10:15 AM
  #2  
pastfast125
4th Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
pastfast125's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location:
Posts: 1,097
Default

A little bit more info is the car has a trick flow stage 1 cam. When I pulled the motor apart the dot on the crank sprocket was aligned with a 0 on the cam sprocket ( might have been vise versa) but either way, that's how I reinstalled it. Dot to 0.
pastfast125 is offline  
Old 08-22-2008, 12:35 PM
  #3  
ewgoetz
3rd Gear Member
 
ewgoetz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Venice, FL
Posts: 912
Default

try restabing the dissy. Been seening alot of people with a similar issue and they were 180 off.
ewgoetz is offline  
Old 08-22-2008, 01:38 PM
  #4  
.boB
3rd Gear Member
 
.boB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location:
Posts: 939
Default

You need three things: spark, fuel, and compression. All at the right time. If it fails to start, go back to the basics and make sure you have all three, and all at the right time.
.boB is offline  
Old 08-22-2008, 02:33 PM
  #5  
pastfast125
4th Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
pastfast125's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location:
Posts: 1,097
Default

well I checked and have spark, by visual verification. Pulled a plug and touched it to the block while cranking. I have fuel cuz I can smell it and the plugs are getting wet. Compression, well as far as my cam and crank are in time with each other, which they should be seeing as I put them back in the way they came out. So that leaves timing. I'm almost positive I'm not 180* off. I stabbed it about 3 times, everytime feeling for compression on #1 and then creeping it along to TDC. That's why I'm kinda stumped here.
pastfast125 is offline  
Old 08-22-2008, 05:33 PM
  #6  
jwog666
5th Gear Member
 
jwog666's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 2,260
Default

sounds stupid but do you have it wired in the correct order. check your cam card to see if its the H.O. or the regular firing order. i had that one bite me in the *** after a rebuild once
jwog666 is offline  
Old 08-22-2008, 10:11 PM
  #7  
mjr46
D.R. THE PATHETIC DORK
 
mjr46's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 30,863
Default

Originally Posted by jwog666
sounds stupid but do you have it wired in the correct order. check your cam card to see if its the H.O. or the regular firing order. i had that one bite me in the *** after a rebuild once
Dude wtf????????? a tfs cam is a no brainer for firing order = h.o
mjr46 is offline  
Old 08-22-2008, 11:23 PM
  #8  
pastfast125
4th Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
pastfast125's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location:
Posts: 1,097
Default

yes I wired it as an H.O.
pastfast125 is offline  
Old 08-23-2008, 11:32 AM
  #9  
mjr46
D.R. THE PATHETIC DORK
 
mjr46's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 30,863
Default

all I CAN SAY IS MAKE SURE ALL CONNECTIONS are plugged in and dizzy is stabbed right and while cranking rotate dizzy and see if it'll remotely even fire up
mjr46 is offline  
Old 08-23-2008, 03:25 PM
  #10  
pastfast125
4th Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
pastfast125's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location:
Posts: 1,097
Default

I'm stumped. spark plug routing is all correct. I tried turning while cranking and it wouldn't even stumble. best I can think of is doing a cyl leakage to see if my cam-crank position is off, but I would think if that was off I wouldn't be able to get the compression stroke up to TDC because it would be keeping a valve open or somethin. I'm not really sure waht's up.
pastfast125 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Tivo304
New Member Area
7
08-28-2023 12:19 PM
ctgreddy
Street/Strip
13
10-14-2015 09:05 PM
stangin1996gt
4.6L (1996-2004 Modular) Mustang
0
09-21-2015 11:01 AM
Big Al's 03
Mach 1 Section
4
09-21-2015 07:59 AM
vintageaion
2005-2014 Mustangs
2
09-08-2015 10:45 AM



Quick Reply: help, probably stupid problem after rebuild...



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:20 AM.