TURBO QQQ
#21
i dont have alot of know-how.
but out of what ive learned, im a big fan of 1 big turbo compared to 2 little ones.
our car's do have room under the good, but if your running a intercooler, and such, your going to be pressed for room, just from a single turbo!
its not easy in the first place.
but 2 turbo's you have to double almost everything!
good luck
but out of what ive learned, im a big fan of 1 big turbo compared to 2 little ones.
our car's do have room under the good, but if your running a intercooler, and such, your going to be pressed for room, just from a single turbo!
its not easy in the first place.
but 2 turbo's you have to double almost everything!
good luck
Twins will spool faster because of less total rotating mass. Both will make pretty well equal power. A twin kit will have far superior header design, but it also has a bit higher backpressure. I personally don't like building single kits for rwd twin bank engines due to the crossover pipe, for one cool air is going to be going by it cooling exhaust gasses which makes them less dense so exhaust gas velocity will slow down. Another downside is thermal expansion; a crossover pipe will grown in length about 3/4-1", the block wont which puts a big stress on the crossover & can cause it to crack the pipe or the headers. This can be fixed with a flexjoint, but also takes up more room. Twin kits are far easier to build imo.
i like the sound of a turbo, but IMO, there to high maintenance. i mean you have to buy all these extra parts that may or may not come with the kit you buy.
and last but not least, a turbo takes a few seconds to build up enough boost to power the car, and can lose boost through alot of different screw ups. like on a pinks episode, this guy blew a waste gate gasket and lost all boost. with a charger, you dont have that problem.
and last but not least, a turbo takes a few seconds to build up enough boost to power the car, and can lose boost through alot of different screw ups. like on a pinks episode, this guy blew a waste gate gasket and lost all boost. with a charger, you dont have that problem.
Turbos take just as much time to build boost as centrifugal superchargers depending on your exhaust a/r. Yet again, a properly setup kit you will not have to worry about losing boost. I've only had one situation where a car with one of my kits lost boost, about 6 years ago I used hose clamps & the pressure hose blew off after switching to tbolt clamps I haven't had any problems with any.
doesn't having 1 huge turbo produce a lot of turbo lag in comparison to twin/double turbo's? Have a small turbo and a larger one helps more than just a big turbo because the little one can get powered up smaller amounts of exhaust and that in turn gives you the kick before it has to charge up the bigger one, therefore giving a more consistent bang. whereas the larger turbo only has to wait for the exhaust gases to fully power it up, making turbo lag.
Lot of bad info flying around here lol. First of all, just because you have a single turbo setup does not mean that your going to have turbo "LAG". Turbo lag is a bunch of donkey sh$t that honda guys talk about. If you buy a single turbo kit from any decent company that sets you up wit the proper sizing, etc. you can bet you will have little to no lag. As far as turbo's on street cars, a properly sized turbo will make full boost very low into the rpm's and there a good chance they will make full boost before a SC will. The only thing wrong with turbo's on the street is the fact that you may not have any traction in 1st, 2nd or 3rd lol.
Also there is no properly sized for any engine, There is sizing it based on where you want your power. Some people prefer their turbo to spool at lower rpm with less lag & are willing to sacrifice high end. I personally prefer turbos a little on the larger side, granted I may not see full boost until 3500-3800 rpm, i'll make more power up top than someone with a smaller turbo. Larger turbos work well with n/a cams aswell, smaller turbos do not because of the higher backpressure in the manifold/header. If your backpressure is higher than your intake pressure, you'll get reversion during valve overlap which will cause a loss in power. Some companies make turbo cams for this purpose. If you're wanting less lag or more low end power I'd suggest going with a roots or twin screw s/c, which imo are more fun to drive. I personally favor a roots/twin screw supercharged car's feel over turbo, they feel faster even though they aren't due to the instant punch.
Superchargers don't have the lag problem turbos do, even with a centrifugal, if you're turning 4k rpm and you floor it, the air & pressure is already there because the impeller of the centri is already spinning at a high rpm. If you floor it with a turbocharged car the impeller isn't spinning at a high speed. Centrifugals & turbos do share a common boost threshold point, but not lag.
A single big turbo is fine but it will cause way more turbo lag than two smaller ones. Also a two smaller turbo combo will give you a flatter TQ response accross a greater power band vs a single large one that takes forever (higher RPM) to fully spool
Example: Twin turbo Volvo and BMW cars make 90-100% torque from 1700 RPM to about 5000 RPM vs a WRX or EVO that takes up to 3500 RPM to make 100% TQ and still maxes around the same RPM.
Example: Twin turbo Volvo and BMW cars make 90-100% torque from 1700 RPM to about 5000 RPM vs a WRX or EVO that takes up to 3500 RPM to make 100% TQ and still maxes around the same RPM.
Some companies use a sequential turbo setup using a smaller turbo & a larger turbo setup in parallel. All of the exhaust are routed into one, there is a gate blocking off the larger turbo so all exhaust is routed into the smaller, once it spools the gate is opened to provide gasses to the larger. This isn't as hard to do on an inline engine If you were to try this on a twin bank engine you would have to route all exhaust gasses into one pipe, then split both off into separate turbos & use a gate to control one.
#22
turbos make more power then superchargers because there is no need for a belt=free hp kind of. ALso where the hell do you see these superchargers for under 1000??????? most likely they will be junk! you get what you pay for.
If you have a turbo properly sized to your combo there will be little lag in the spool up, and superchargers also have this problem
Superchargers you can loose boost in different ways also !!!!!!!!!!!!!! bet ya didnt know that one, you could throw a belt, or blow your intake tube off, or if you are running a blow off valve you could blow that gasket off just like a turbo!
If you have a turbo properly sized to your combo there will be little lag in the spool up, and superchargers also have this problem
Superchargers you can loose boost in different ways also !!!!!!!!!!!!!! bet ya didnt know that one, you could throw a belt, or blow your intake tube off, or if you are running a blow off valve you could blow that gasket off just like a turbo!
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