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Old 12-18-2009, 03:02 PM
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okay the problem started a while ago where the car would die once warmed up, and it wouldnt start till it was cold again. eventually it wouldnt start at all. there was a intermittent spark issue; failed pip or tfi. so the dist was replaced. i have spark at the coil and each plug wire, i hooked a noid light to an injector and it blinks when you crank it over so i think im ok there. i hear the fuel pump prime. with the key on the schrader valve sprays out gas for a second but doesnt build back up pressure unless the key is cycled on again. i have to go get a fuel pressure tester still. anyways this might be normal but i dont know.if i floor the gas pedal and crank the car over it will try to start but no were close just sputters now and then. i have codes for 21 ect and 24iat. i dont know that they would prevent the car from starting and i switched them out with ones on my spare motor, however i do not know that they are good or not. so i need advice on what steps i need to take next after i test the fuel pressure
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:03 PM
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Pull the plugs and see if they are gas fouled or white from a lean condition. May have jumped time if the timing chain is worn out.
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lxman1
Pull the plugs and see if they are gas fouled or white from a lean condition. May have jumped time if the timing chain is worn out.
thanks, i did that, and they were sorta, anyways problem solved. there was a break in the pip spout wire and the timing was off from when i restabbed the dist. runs great now. the pip was shorting to the ground sheild inside the loom. im sure its what ruined the old dist.
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Good to hear!!!
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Old 12-19-2009, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lxman1
Good to hear!!!
i drove it last night, first time in about a month and it ran great till i parked it and whent home later. its running choppy KOEOR codes came up for 91 and 33 which is egr and drivers side o2. KEOEO came up with more junk like 81, 82 (tab and tad), 29, 33,51, 54. 91.
some i havent cleared out yet but the car runs like its missing, seems more noticable at about 2k rpm and less below that. my egr is hooked up and functional so its either plugged up or bad. both my o2s are like a year old. anyways while running it only has those 2 codes. i would prefer to not buy a new egr and i do have a block off plate but it made the car run bad even with a egr still plugged in so the ecu would see its still there.i havent heard anything good from deleting the egr since you can trick the ecu with a resistor or something but the egr function still is there and the ecu will do its thing
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Old 12-20-2009, 05:36 PM
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I run mine with the EGR hooked up with a block-off plate between the egr spacer and intake. No issues. All that the egr sensor is looking for is to see the actual valve opening and closing with the sensor mounted on top on the valve. Either the valve isn't moving or the sensor is bad.

I don't remember right off what 33 says, but is it an out of range code? This would be caused by either a lean or rich condition, not a bad sensor.
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just wondering lx man 1 but y the 3.8 taurus fan?
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Because they flow like 3000cfm which is better than most fans anywhere. They're also very easy to find and pretty cheap. Those bad boys nearly hover if you put it on high when it's layng on the ground
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Originally Posted by greenstreak9205
Because they flow like 3000cfm which is better than most fans anywhere. They're also very easy to find and pretty cheap. Those bad boys nearly hover if you put it on high when it's layng on the ground
my contour fan flows insane, possibly better. its a dual fan and fits like stock its like about 1 or 2" shorter and sits alot flatter too. i have one in my jeep too, didnt fit so nicely. i tell you the contour fan flows like the taurus fan but fits and looks better, and covers more area, like the whole radiator and has a tab that hangs on the top of the stock raditator perfectly. i posted a thread on here someplace if anyone is interested.
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