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Old 10-15-2005, 12:37 AM
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okay, I just put together a 302 bored 0.040 over and I ported the heads, and I put thinner than stock head gaskets in.
when I start it up it starts fine, accept when its hot, it almost sounds like the battery is dead, then it fires up.
could this hard starting be because of the higher than stock compression?
or could it have something to do with my using 2 gauge wire for my battery relocation?

I am getting a little worried about reliability now.
I dont want to drive somewhere and not be able to start it.
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Old 10-15-2005, 01:17 AM
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someone correct me if im wrong but do you not have to put in a stronger starter if the compression goes way up? it makes sense that the stock starter wont have enough oopmf to turn the engine and will sound like a dead baterry???
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Old 10-15-2005, 01:30 AM
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stock starter is for stock CR

raised CR needs a stronger starter,

reason its hard when hot is the starter is already hot. you get the most cranking power when you first kick it over
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Old 10-15-2005, 01:47 AM
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so I need a new, higher power starter then? arent 93 -95 starters better?
what brand would you guys recomend?

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Old 10-15-2005, 01:56 AM
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i went powermaster
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Agreed w/ Quik. You can never go wrong with powermaster. They provide very good products and are also very reputable.
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Old 10-15-2005, 10:31 AM
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The 2 gauge doesn't help, and if your timing is advanced too far for starting it will cause that also, even sometimes on stock engines. Are you running an MSD box at all? I think the 6AL has a retard for starting.
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Old 10-15-2005, 12:28 PM
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The 2 gauge doesn't help, and if your timing is advanced too far for starting it will cause that also, even sometimes on stock engines. Are you running an MSD box at all? I think the 6AL has a retard for starting.
I think you nailed it here, 2 gauge wire will have a lot resistance compared to a 0 gauge.
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going .40 over is not anymore compression.. either the engine is "tight" or your heat soaking the starter....use a "00" gauge wire...check your timing also
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my timing is set at 12 degrees, but I did use thinner head gaskets, 0.9mm, and flat top pistons
speed pro h273cp to be exact. wouldnt that up my compression a little?

I know stock pistons have a small dish to them.

vfast, it starts good when cold, it only has a hard time when hot, if the wire was too small wouldnt it happen alll the time?

edit: I am running a 6a msd, and my headers are wrapped with header wrap.
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