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Old 10-20-2005, 06:37 PM
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I've checked practically everything on my motor to see what's wrong with it. Everything pretty much checks out fine, so i've narrowed it down to an internal motor problem or a computer problem. The motor has 140k so I wouldn't be suprised if it was bad. To compression test it you take all the spark plugs out and put the tester in each cylinder correct after firing it for 4 seconds? I was also wondering what should the compression of each cylinder be around?
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Old 10-20-2005, 07:04 PM
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I am not sure how much compression you should have, but when you are running the test make sure your lowest cylinder to highest compression readings are no more than 20% apart. If it is more than 20% that is probably the bad cylinder.
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Old 10-20-2005, 07:58 PM
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could a bad timing chain also cause a big power loss, its never been replaced and it has 140, im guessing that could be bad..
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Old 10-20-2005, 08:01 PM
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with that many miles on it, change the chain. a new chain wont help much but it will making timing more reliable.
as for the compression test. you want them to be 10% variance at the most for a performance engine. 20% is fine on a stock car but if your going for performance you want 10%. and for the number, 140-150 is really good for how many miles you have on it. dont be dissapointed if you get 120psi. the main thing is that all are within 10%
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could it be a computer problem then if the timing chain doesnt affect it much? I bought a gtech and it did 0-60 in 8.9 seconds so something is definitely ****ed up lol...
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ran the compression test, here are the results:
4th back driver side - 125
3rd - 130
2nd - 134
1st = 131

4th back passenger side - 130
3rd back - 126
2nd back - 131
1st - 125
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sell me the car for a good price. ill take real good care of it. i promise
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With that kind of readings you have NO problems.........
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yea those are great numbers on my 120k mile motor all are within 90 to 100 psi......it sucks.....but i did run a 15.5 up here in colorado so that around a 14.5 at sea level.
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A compression test will give you some basic info, and at the same time, can help in troubleshooting. The best test is a cylinder bleeddown. With some inexpensive valves, a Harbor freight HVLP regulator and guage assy and some plumbing fittings you can adapt any compression tester that uses standard airline quick disconnect fittings into a very useful bleed down tester. I built mine in an afternoon including the trip to Lowes and Harbor Freight for under $30 (I think my compression tester was $24.95 at Advance..) I will gen up a drawing and post it when I get a chance.

Using only the compression tester, the only reliable compression figure is warm cranking at WOT. After the motor is warmed up, disconnect the ignition module connector, I always connect a battery charger so that the last cylinder gets as good a turn as number 1.

Open the throttle all the way to the stop (I use a length of padded 2x4 between the seat and the throttle pedal. The WOT switch shuts off fuel in the start-crank mode. Crank for 4 seconds, record the reading and reinstall the plug then go on to the next cylinder. I always reinstall the plugs snug as I go along so that the compression is an accurate picture of what happens at a warm start-up. When all are complete, wait 5 minutes for the starter to cool (or pour a quart of chilled water on it to speed the process...) Then using a standard squirt can, repeat the process and note the readings to see if the loss is in the rings or valves. Two squirts of oil should improve the compression by a few pounds up to 10 on a good cylinder. If you see a 20-30 pound or more rise on more than a couple cylinders, try a can of Seafoam or other upper cylinder cleaner to see if the rings are coked up and simply not sealing because of the carbon buildup. I just had this problem in my 97 Nissan PU. Every oil control ring was gummed up and there was a ton of carbon in the ring lands that caused poor ring seating and oil consumption. I used a can of Seafoam (I heard about it from an NMCA racer buddy who had used it on his tow vehicle; I'm not endorsing it beyond my own experience but it worked for me )

If any adjacent cylinders are low, I'll follow up by pulling both plugs and checking compression while putting a finger on the adjacent cylinder to feel for blowby from a bad head gasket.

If all cylinders are within 10% but under 130 or so, or if a couple are out of the 10% range, I would do a bleed down test just to find out what's wrong before taking it apart.

FOR ADVANCED CALCULATIONS, TRY: (NEED TO SUBSCRIBE, BUT IT;S A GREAT TECH SITE)
http://www.smokemup.com/auto_math/pressure_ratio2.php


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