da boss

Hi, I am trying to figure out what I should install in a 94-95 mustang a 408W or a 429W. I will have around 13K to drop into the car and am looking for the best performance for the money. Sometime over the summer I will also probably install a turbo. Also the engine has to be fuel injected and the car will be used for street driving and a little racing. Thanks

Tims 88GT

351w stroked to a 427, with a turbo or a s/c run 12psi and you should make 750-800 rwhp

frop

Good luck, you'll need it.

da boss

why will I need it

frop

Sounds like you've got high expectations and little experience. To build a great motor of that size is gonna cost some $$$ that will eat up most, if not all of your budget. You are also going to have to beef the **** out of your driveline if you want it to last much more than the first time you get traction. That's several thousand more right there (new at least). Then you also need tires and brakes if you drive stupid and aren't fond of dying or trees. More to come...

frop

Part # Item Price Qty Line Total Delete

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ATI-918911 Harmonic Balancer, Super Damper, External Balance, Steel, Ford, 289/302/351C/351M/351W/400, Each $369.95 $369.95

BBK-1513 Pulley Set, Serpentine, Steel, Black, Ford, Small Block, Set of 3 $79.88 $79.88

BRA-1650 Water Pump, Mechanical, High-Volume, Aluminum, Natural, Ford, 302/351W, Each $85.88 $85.88

CCA-35-781-9 Camshaft, Solid Roller Tappet, Advertised Duration 308/326, Lift .696/.683, Ford, Small Block, Each $279.88 $279.88

CCA-732-16 Valve Spring Retainers, Titanium, 10 Degree, 1.550 in. Outside Diameter, .710 in. Inside Diameter, Set of 16 $239.95 $239.95

CCA-838-16 Lifters, Mechanical Roller, Vertical Link Bar, Ford/Lincoln/Mercury, Set of 16 $319.95 $319.95

CSP-S4101 R ARMS EDL VIC JR FRD 1.5 7/16 $319.95 $319.95

DTL-187C145A Differential, Tractech Detroit Locker, 31-Spline, Ford, 8.8 in., Each $599.95 $599.95

EDL-3886 Intake Manifold, Victor EFI, Aluminum, Multi-Port, Ford, Small Block, 5.8L, Each $329.95 $329.95

EDL-77299 Cylinder Head, Chapman Victor, Aluminum, Bare, 61cc Chamber, 255cc Intake Runner, Ford, 289/302/351W, Each $869.50 $1,739.00

EDL-9371 Valves, Intake, Stainless Steel, 2.050 in. Diameter, Ford, Small Block, Set of 8 $121.99 $121.99

ESP-14123040 Rotating Assembly, 4.040 in.x 4.00 in., Forged Dish, Forged Crank, 6.25 in. H-Beam Rods, Ford, 408, Kit $1,839.95 $1,839.95

FLD-FHP20A-95MU Radiator, Direct Fit, Aluminum, Automatic Transmission, Ford, Mustang, Each $409.95 $409.95

FMS-M-4209-F373N Gear, Ring and Pinion, 3.73:1 Ratio, Ford, 8.8 in., Set $144.88 $144.88

FMS-M-7000-A Transmission Rebuild, T-5, Ford, Mustang/Thunderbird, Kit $249.95 $249.95

FMS-M-7003-R58C Transmission, Manual, Tremec 5-Speed HD, Ford Mustang, Each $1,819.95 $1,819.95

KMO-K-950 Valve Springs, Dual, 1.550 in. Outside Diameter, 636 lbs./in. Rate, 1.150 in. Coil Bind Height, Set of 16 $251.95 $251.95

MAN-11531-8 Valves, Exhaust, Stainless Steel, 1.600 in. Diameter, Ford, 260/289/302/351W, Set of 8 $79.60 $79.60

MAN-13094T-16 Valve Locks, Machined, Hardened Steel, 10 Degree, 1-Groove, .3415 in. Valve Stem, Set of 16 $124.00 $124.00

MSR-9333 C-Clip Eliminator, Billet Aluminum, 1.533 in. Diameter Seat, Ford/Mercury, 7.5/8.8 in., 10-Bolt, Kit $150.95 $150.95

PJJ-289-9C Gear Drive, Quiet, Dual Idler, Ford, Small Block, Kit $219.95 $219.95

RSP-SM94-3K100-A Disc Brake Kit, Front/Rear, Vented, Cross-Drilled/Slotted Surface, 4-Piston Calipers, Ford, Mustang, Kit $1,329.95 $1,329.95

SLP-224-41166V Oil Pump, High-Volume, Standard Pressure, Ford, Cleveland/Modified, V8, Each $52.39 $52.39

STR-P3108-4 Axles, Custom S/S, 1550 Steel, 31-Spline, 4 x 4.25 in. Pattern, with C-Clip Eliminator, Pair $374.95 $374.95

WRL-087182 Engine Block, Cast Iron, 4-Bolt Mains, 4.115 in. Bore, 1-Piece Rear Main Seal, 9.5 in. Deck, Ford, 351, Each $2,495.95 $2,495.95


Sub Total: $14,030.70

And that's just for starters.

I'm not trying to discourage you and frankly, it could be hella cheaper, but you have got to be realistic.

I'd say focus on getting brakes, supspension, & drivetrain up to par first, or at least better. Also, start small with what seems to be your first engine

da boss

Wow thanks for spending all that time to compile all that information. It looks like you listed a lot more than I had so far looked into. I did find a complete 408W engine with forged internals for almost 8K which would leave around 3.5K for other performance upgrades like brakes, suspension, transmission, clutch, new rear tires,and drivetrain. I was going to spend the other 1.5K on a new CD player, two new seats, and a 6 point roll cage but I would only buy the first 2 if the interior sucked or it didn't have a CD player already.Thanks again.

P.S.- Happy New Year

frop

Ok, sounds like you got things decently planned out. Good luck and keep in mind that the list I made is very general and many things won't work together.

mkspeed26

its all up to u. if u want more low end torque (turbo wont do sh*t until it spools) then go 427. 408 would be better for revving higher, ie high end power

tinman

I really don't think $3.5k would handle all the up-grades needed to trans, rearend and all by the time any labor was included.
Around here roll bars go in for about $100 per point so there's $800 alone.
Wheels and tires for $1000....
Rearend could be $12-1400 easy.......
Maybe you need to re-think a little. Don't get me wrong, a Mustang that flat hauls can be built for $13k.......