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Old 02-18-2009, 08:38 PM
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I've done all of my research on a DIY turrbo kits and and that's probably the route i'll take, however, i'm open to suggestions for a non turbo set up...


so let me know how this setup would be:

suspension/traction/driveline:
-built auto w/ manual valve body and 2800-3200 stall
-3.73's
-drag radials
-sub frame connectors
-eibach drag suspension

boltons:
-full exhaust w/ xpipe
-gt-40 intakes and heads from a ford explorer
-whatever cam you think i need
-electric fan

fuel:
- walbro 255lph?
- whatever # injectors you think i need

POWER ADDER
-150hp wet shot


How much power do you think this would do me for? any ideas on some 1/4 mile times?

If i've left something out or said something wrong, feel free to let me know!
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Old 02-18-2009, 08:44 PM
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Put a simple "E" cam in there and you'd be all over the 11's
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BlessedHellride
Put a simple "E" cam in there and you'd be all over the 11's
really? that sounds pretty awesome!

what about off the bottle (with the "e" cam)?
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f cam plus turbo and you can go 10's
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:42 AM
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no doubt it would. I have a friend of mine running 10.20's with a single turbo with an "E" cam in his ride. A turbo makes more hp/tq than N20.
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yeah, i'm probably going turbo, but i'm exploring my non turbo options here. I'd be pretty happy with 11's, seeing as how the fastest i've gone is 13.0.

the turbo setup is gonna be a lot more work and a lot more luck (finding turbos in a junk yard isn't as easy as i thought it'd be.

I went 2 days ago and the only two turbos in the whole place were off of 2000 volvo s40 1.9t's. I thought i was damn lucky to find 2 of the same turbos, but now everyone's telling me that these turbos are way to small, and i must say that i agree... which is a shame, cause i got both out the door for $80, and got extremely dirty doing it.
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so 11's with the mods i mentioned plus an 'e' cam...

how much hp/torque am a looking at to the wheels?


what times/power am i looking at with these variations?


1. w/o the cam?

2. with the cam but OFF the bottle?

3. with no cam or bottle?



What are the methods for tuning for these kinds of mods?




sorry about all the questions guys; I'm curious.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by boosted AWD
so 11's with the mods i mentioned plus an 'e' cam...

how much hp/torque am a looking at to the wheels?


what times/power am i looking at with these variations?


1. w/o the cam?

2. with the cam but OFF the bottle?

3. with no cam or bottle?



What are the methods for tuning for these kinds of mods?


sorry about all the questions guys; I'm curious.
hci you can tune in your front yard. adj. fpr w/ gauge and an MAF that matches your injectors.


1) ~365rwhp 390tq on bottle 150shot as mentioned, full bolt ons
2) ~270rwhp 330tq off bottle, full bolt ons
3) ~265rwhp 320tq just h/i no cam, full bolt ons


you're going to need a lot of tuned suspension and a motor tuned well to reach 11's on that build. why would you go with such an oldschool cam? why not get something with a little more umph and make your life easier. dual pattern ftw!

a T brake will make your track times way better and easier to tune your suspenion + better launches. invest in one of those.

i say with what you are planning right out the gate at the track you'd hit off the bottle 13.30's, on bottle 12.80's


you're missing some more important components of your suspension set up to launch off the trans like that. also with an auto you dont really have enough gear in the rear with 3.73's. 4.10's w/ auto ftw!

but thats just one mans opinion
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:36 AM
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anyone got cost numbers for the turbo build? u guys buying fully forged motors from somewhere?
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DIY turbo? or a kit?

our motors are fully forged up to 92. 93+ are hypers

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