302army187

haha yea, probably was bull****ing.

I sprayed down the motor like 4 times with simple green and water, a little got in the pan from the dizzy hole, so maybe that's what your seein'?

a_penquin

That could be it, the water give away was how the oil beaded on the gasket and the wet appearance of the block. However the crank valley and general pan area looks excessively damp.

302army187

yea, thats probably all it was.

the motor had a oil filter, and about a quart of oil in it. I primed the oil pump, and turned the motor over a few times before tearing it down, just to be sure it could move/pump oil.

I then cut open the oil filter, which the oil was dark brown/black, and thick, but no chunks or water as you say.

the oil that was in the pan was not thick, and just looked like it needed changed, dark brown. So I guess he probably reused the oil filter a few times If I had to guess. also the front drain plug on the pan was stripped. rear main bearing thingie was seized in there and beat to ****. good think I have a slide hammer. made short work out of it.

lol, all in all not the most perfect motor so far, but I only payed $200 for the entire long block, with intake manifold.

a_penquin

I would pull the mains and check the bearings just in case. Knowing what was already overlooked, who knows what else lies in wait.

projectresto83

Pulling the bearings will tell you alot too. The rear main baearing thingie....pilot bearing? lol

408 turbo fox? Not if he forgot the head gasket. To tell you the truth I bet he pulled the one head to look at something and then just put it all back together to get rid of it and forgot to put it back.

302army187

yea, thinking about it more, with some beer in me, the head/block has the markings of the stock head gaskets. I imagie if it was run you would see water damage/burn's on the block/head where it leaked.

just kinda odd he would torque the heads down and set the valvetrain back up. maybe just so peopkle didn't ask questions?


yea, pilot bearing, haha, forgot that ****.


I'm going to have the shop check the bearings and replace them, might as well get new rings while im at it.


will take the block in next week when i get my paycheck.

302army187

maybe ill tear it down myself,. would be worth the experience.

gotta figure out some way I can organize all teh part's though.

projectresto83

Save yourself some money:

Tear down the block yourself and check rod and main bearings
send block in for its work and they install new cam bearings and freeze plugs
you install the rings, rod bearings, and main bearings

TrimDrip

I have seen people forget the plate for the starter more than once. Also seen people doing it forever put a head gasket on upside down. But never someone forget a gasket.lol

If the pistons are free of carbon, he ran it without the gasket. No way water wasn't going everywhere. Oh course you never here of someone running a motor without a head gasket. So I guess it is possible that it isn't as bad as one with a blown gasket shooting water out the side of the motor.

302army187

I loved that Idea at first, but im afraid I have no idea how to do the work, other then basically bolting everything together.

reading about the "crush" of a bearing, and **** just freaks me out that ill screw something up.

plus I would need to buy tools for the install. maybe only a piston ring compressor, but im sure there would need to be others.

idk. just paranoid id **** it up.