new to stangs... need help
#1
new to stangs... need help
finally got a mustang like i've always wanted bought a 93 gt hatch with 5.0 ho and fried aod....gonna put in a new one with shiftkit and high qauilty fluid...wanna do some minor preformance upgrades but efi is sort a foreign to me...heres my plan...
explorer upper/lower intake
60mm trottle body
1" intake spacer
1/2"throttle spacer
jbl headers
highflow cats
2 1/2" exhaust with x pipe..
flowmasters
cold air intake
subframe connectors
tubular control arms
strut brace
2" lowering springs/spindles
8.8 rear rebiult with new limited slipclutches and 3.73/4.10 gears..
this car came with 16" boyd rims and 225X50R16 goodyears..
that leave a couple questions...
do i need to upgrade igniton or computer or fuel systems????
what kinda power should this net me????
is there anything i missed????
and off the power subject did these cars ever have a tilt column????
explorer upper/lower intake
60mm trottle body
1" intake spacer
1/2"throttle spacer
jbl headers
highflow cats
2 1/2" exhaust with x pipe..
flowmasters
cold air intake
subframe connectors
tubular control arms
strut brace
2" lowering springs/spindles
8.8 rear rebiult with new limited slipclutches and 3.73/4.10 gears..
this car came with 16" boyd rims and 225X50R16 goodyears..
that leave a couple questions...
do i need to upgrade igniton or computer or fuel systems????
what kinda power should this net me????
is there anything i missed????
and off the power subject did these cars ever have a tilt column????
#2
I've never seen one with a tilt column. I know they seem rather low to me. My knees always hit the column and I'm not even that tall.
As for power I wouldn't expect much of an increase unless your willing to upgrade the heads, cam, and intake. The heads are where you will net the most increase. I don't know what your HP/Trq goals are but I'd save your money for this. Nevertheless you do have a few items on that list that would be a good mod.
As for the gears, go with the 410's for sure. I just put some in and despite what some say I do NOT think there too much gear. They don't change my daily driving or road manners a bit. In fact I could see myself getting 430's or 456 in the future.
As for power I wouldn't expect much of an increase unless your willing to upgrade the heads, cam, and intake. The heads are where you will net the most increase. I don't know what your HP/Trq goals are but I'd save your money for this. Nevertheless you do have a few items on that list that would be a good mod.
As for the gears, go with the 410's for sure. I just put some in and despite what some say I do NOT think there too much gear. They don't change my daily driving or road manners a bit. In fact I could see myself getting 430's or 456 in the future.
#3
finally got a mustang like i've always wanted bought a 93 gt hatch with 5.0 ho and fried aod....gonna put in a new one with shiftkit and high qauilty fluid...wanna do some minor preformance upgrades but efi is sort a foreign to me...heres my plan...
explorer upper/lower intake
60mm trottle body
1" intake spacer
1/2"throttle spacer
jbl headers
highflow cats
2 1/2" exhaust with x pipe..
flowmasters
cold air intake
subframe connectors
tubular control arms
strut brace
2" lowering springs/spindles
8.8 rear rebiult with new limited slipclutches and 3.73/4.10 gears..
this car came with 16" boyd rims and 225X50R16 goodyears..
that leave a couple questions...
do i need to upgrade igniton or computer or fuel systems????
what kinda power should this net me????
is there anything i missed????
and off the power subject did these cars ever have a tilt column????
explorer upper/lower intake
60mm trottle body
1" intake spacer
1/2"throttle spacer
jbl headers
highflow cats
2 1/2" exhaust with x pipe..
flowmasters
cold air intake
subframe connectors
tubular control arms
strut brace
2" lowering springs/spindles
8.8 rear rebiult with new limited slipclutches and 3.73/4.10 gears..
this car came with 16" boyd rims and 225X50R16 goodyears..
that leave a couple questions...
do i need to upgrade igniton or computer or fuel systems????
what kinda power should this net me????
is there anything i missed????
and off the power subject did these cars ever have a tilt column????
Run 4.10 gears MINIMUM with the AOD
Get an external transmission cooler with a fan on it
60mm TB is a wast of time, your stock TB is 58mm. Go 70mm-75mm. If you run a 75mm, you should port match the opening of the intake manifold to match. make sure you get the appropriate EGR piece.
Run BBK Headers instead of JBL, got a matching BBK mid pipe
CAI is a waste of money, so are the intake spacer and throttle body spacer.
No, you don't need to upgrade your ignition/computer/fuel system
You wont break 200RWHP
Something you missed... Get a SN-95 MAF sensor. Its $15-$50 and if a 70mm piece. Will swap right in, and its 15mm larger than what you have.
#4
thanks for the help fellas...
only lookin to beef the car for cruising not a camaro killer yet...maybe later...
i'll swap to a 70mm throttle plate
and whats the egr peiced i'm lookin for...
i use the spacers for clearence...will also swap out the maf...
what do you mean my tires are the wrong size???
only lookin to beef the car for cruising not a camaro killer yet...maybe later...
i'll swap to a 70mm throttle plate
and whats the egr peiced i'm lookin for...
i use the spacers for clearence...will also swap out the maf...
what do you mean my tires are the wrong size???
#5
I didn't realize that I hadnt made myself clear... so let me try to rectify this situation right now.
Your car currently has 225/50/16 tires on it...
(((225/100(50x2))/25.4)+16) = 24.8"
Your current tires overall diameter is 24.8".
A stock Mustang tire is ~25.7"
(((225/100(55x2))/25.4)+16) = 25.744"
Hence.... YOUR TIRES ARE THE WRONG SIZE!
Understand?
Your car currently has 225/50/16 tires on it...
(((225/100(50x2))/25.4)+16) = 24.8"
Your current tires overall diameter is 24.8".
A stock Mustang tire is ~25.7"
(((225/100(55x2))/25.4)+16) = 25.744"
Hence.... YOUR TIRES ARE THE WRONG SIZE!
Understand?
Last edited by AdderMk2; 05-06-2011 at 02:17 PM.
#7
well a bunch of stuff i'd skip
you said "later" to be a camaro killer ??? skip half of what you said and do it now.
do a t5 tranny swap. aod's are horribly geared and extremely weak. if you insist on it... just get a lentech or start saving to rebuild it again in 6 months.
your tires should b3 225/60/15 , so yeah they are shorter (giving you better gear ratio) and a lil wider.
a t5 swap, 4.10 gears and a decent cheater slick (not nittos....mickey thompson anything...et streets are best) will knock about 2 seconds off your ET, thats like adding 200 hp.
do a 100 shot nitrous kit and you'll be sitting pretty
aod cars are a full second slower than same equipped t5 cars (i had 2 aod cars and 3 t5 cars... i can show the naysayers timeslips...so dont even bother)
until you swap for better heads tb,intake gives you nothing. especially explorer. explorer or "gt40p" are very small ports....and IMO just a gt40 "style" intake
** go here for pics and sizes
http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-foru...who-knows.html
you said "later" to be a camaro killer ??? skip half of what you said and do it now.
do a t5 tranny swap. aod's are horribly geared and extremely weak. if you insist on it... just get a lentech or start saving to rebuild it again in 6 months.
your tires should b3 225/60/15 , so yeah they are shorter (giving you better gear ratio) and a lil wider.
a t5 swap, 4.10 gears and a decent cheater slick (not nittos....mickey thompson anything...et streets are best) will knock about 2 seconds off your ET, thats like adding 200 hp.
do a 100 shot nitrous kit and you'll be sitting pretty
aod cars are a full second slower than same equipped t5 cars (i had 2 aod cars and 3 t5 cars... i can show the naysayers timeslips...so dont even bother)
until you swap for better heads tb,intake gives you nothing. especially explorer. explorer or "gt40p" are very small ports....and IMO just a gt40 "style" intake
** go here for pics and sizes
http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-foru...who-knows.html
#8
the car is the wife too and she won't drive stick...must stay auto...
as for too short tires...as i'm lowering the car 1 1/2 -2" a 1" shorter tire makes since...
the non camaro killer status is becuase of the aod, i know there week and will probably convert to a c4 if/when i build a proper motor for the car...
and yes i've found far better intakes aftermarket for reasonable prices...
the plans are to drive it now and biuld a 347 aluminum headed beast for it later...but that'll require frame stiffing suspension work tough trans and upgradse to alot of peices.. and thats all if i can convince the wife to let me do it all... i may just need to buy another gt and build it for myself...convincing her of that should be easier...
as for too short tires...as i'm lowering the car 1 1/2 -2" a 1" shorter tire makes since...
the non camaro killer status is becuase of the aod, i know there week and will probably convert to a c4 if/when i build a proper motor for the car...
and yes i've found far better intakes aftermarket for reasonable prices...
the plans are to drive it now and biuld a 347 aluminum headed beast for it later...but that'll require frame stiffing suspension work tough trans and upgradse to alot of peices.. and thats all if i can convince the wife to let me do it all... i may just need to buy another gt and build it for myself...convincing her of that should be easier...