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12-13-2011, 07:38 PM
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looks like a home made turbo kit would have easier to do and could make more power but at the same time it would not have been as unique as what you are doing. Looks cool looking forward to seeing the finish product and the power it makes.
12-13-2011, 08:22 PM
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thanks bud.
For cooling mod's I've got a lot of ideas, but no real plans, haha.
Most simple would be using a small shot of nitrous, a dry shot, and use it only for the track. Meth is a option, but to me its the same hassle as nitrous was.
A ghetto redneck way to cool it would be to put my stock hood back on, and just cut a giant hole in it, so the blower sticks out, and gets cooled by the air rushing over it.
I would like to rig up a air/air intercooler, but not sure how that will work. I guess you could rig piping to a intercooer, and put a filter on the other side, but that seems like a hell of a distance for it to try and pull air from.
really, nitrous or meth seems the most logical at the moment.
For cooling mod's I've got a lot of ideas, but no real plans, haha.
Most simple would be using a small shot of nitrous, a dry shot, and use it only for the track. Meth is a option, but to me its the same hassle as nitrous was.
A ghetto redneck way to cool it would be to put my stock hood back on, and just cut a giant hole in it, so the blower sticks out, and gets cooled by the air rushing over it.
I would like to rig up a air/air intercooler, but not sure how that will work. I guess you could rig piping to a intercooer, and put a filter on the other side, but that seems like a hell of a distance for it to try and pull air from.
really, nitrous or meth seems the most logical at the moment.
If anything, do what you were saying and hit it with a tiny shot. It wouldn't take much nitrous at all to cool that Heaton down.
12-14-2011, 02:17 AM
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First of all, idk why you would go through all that fabrication, just to keep the coil packs in front of everything looking all ugly
Worse case scenario, I'll do some junkyard hunting for a idler before I spent any money on new parts.
The guy has kits or atleast the ability to make a adapter for ANY intake manifold. He said he could make one for my victor, but like I said, I can get a decent dollar for the victor, where I can't for the typhoon.
jus wait till you hear the wine! :-) my buddy says it sounds like "snookey" for j-shore lol
and are you sure about the head flowing? pretty sure those cobra heads flow a butt load.....
and your cam, what is it made for? if its a big cam for N/a or nitrous it aint going to work out to well.
WARNING with using nitrous with these blowers... It creates a doubler effect, so a 50 shot turns the hp up between 50-100, so if you do spray it start low as you can get outa control fast, not to mention the blower creates so much hp and torque down low, it may be a tad bit hard to hook
and are you sure about the head flowing? pretty sure those cobra heads flow a butt load.....
and your cam, what is it made for? if its a big cam for N/a or nitrous it aint going to work out to well.
WARNING with using nitrous with these blowers... It creates a doubler effect, so a 50 shot turns the hp up between 50-100, so if you do spray it start low as you can get outa control fast, not to mention the blower creates so much hp and torque down low, it may be a tad bit hard to hook
The cam should be fine, its said to work well with some turbo guys. I'm considering going back to the stock cam to keep the RPM's lower, and inturn making the block last longer.
Buying a custom supercharger/boost friendly cam is not logical when the block is at risk.
haha, yea I saw that with the nitrous stuff, one guy said he was using a 30 shot or something and picked up 70hp. Another was using like a 75 shot, and picked up like 120.
ETA is middle/end of january. I don't see the install taking longer then a day, hell probably 5 hours if it wasn't for me going to make a video on how to install this kit.
the hard part will be tuning the car myself. I hope that I can learn quickly that way I don't have to pussyfoot around for months trying to figure out stupid stuff.
you doubt it will be "fast"? I don't see it running 10's first day out, but I don't see it taking too many track visits to atleast hit low 11's. It will probably take slicks to hit 10's..... If the transmission/rearend holds.
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12-14-2011, 02:25 AM
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Meth is a piece of cake, very cheap, and easy to rig up. A tank of that stuff will last a long time too. I'm not sure if you can rig up an air to air cooler since its blowing directly into the mani... Are there no heat exchangers that will work for you?
If anything, do what you were saying and hit it with a tiny shot. It wouldn't take much nitrous at all to cool that Heaton down.
If anything, do what you were saying and hit it with a tiny shot. It wouldn't take much nitrous at all to cool that Heaton down.
With the way the kit bolts to the lower intake, a cobra style heat exchanger is too big in places to fit. I've been looking at people that use a remote mount small water intercooler type set up. Buick GN turbo guys use this kinda thing, but your talking about a custom heat exchanger, custom fittings, lines, pump, and somewhere to mount the external heat exchanger to get air, which on a foxbody probably means cutting a hole in the bumper.
Tiny nitrous shot would be easiest mainly because i have 2 complete nitrous kits, and wouldn't be nothin' to just use that. Hell I could use my small nitrous purge solenoid, and honda civic sized nitrous jets for a 25-30 shot, dry, and probably be plenty to keep it cool at the track. Problem is, i'm already in the danger zone for splitting the block.
no problem man, don't sweat it too much. Focus more about getting a job, and money back into your bank account then putting something on your car that could potently cost MUCH more then the initial investment (I.E. you blow the motor)
Plus isn't your mach your daily driver? It won't effect me none if the mustang has to sit for 6+ months while I save up for a new block......... with the name Dart on it.
12-14-2011, 07:29 AM
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I'm glad you are buying one of those plates from that dude on corral instead of doing all of that ridiculous piping and mounting it off to the side like I've seen on others. I ran across his thread a few months back and thought it was a pretty cool idea. I really do hope you get the results you are looking for. I know the six banger guys use a similar plate setup to put these on and don't see great gains.. Should look pretty clean sitting on top.
12-14-2011, 08:56 AM
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I'm glad you are buying one of those plates from that dude on corral instead of doing all of that ridiculous piping and mounting it off to the side like I've seen on others. I ran across his thread a few months back and thought it was a pretty cool idea. I really do hope you get the results you are looking for. I know the six banger guys use a similar plate setup to put these on and don't see great gains.. Should look pretty clean sitting on top.
We will see. As long as It run's LOW 11's, and I know I can get it into the 10's eventually, and be consistent, I will be happy.