TrimDrip

You got to think about every motor being different too. Some are just stronger than others. Just because one motor will run on 32 degrees timing doesn't mean every motor built with the same specs will perform the same on 32 degrees. The next motor may like 34.

I have a friend that ran a 302 with a carb. His car would run in the 6.80s. Nothing more than a 302. He was running within a tenth or two other stangs that had stroker enignes. He built another 302 and used the same set-up when that one gave up. He never broke into the 6s again. It ran its fastest before it came apart.

All I am trying to say is, every motor is different. Some perform and some don't.

Venomantidote95

Well as for spewing bull****?? i think not! it isnt unheard of to get the results you posted (still no dyno sheet though)?? but on average what he got is what you get in most cases!

You have a stout 302 to break 300rwhp n/a! usually more than a h/c/i swap!


As for an engine running its best right before it breaks that is normal, loose is fast!!! right before an engine is completely worn out it will run its fastest due to low friction and max wear.

When you build an engine if you build it right before its loosest tolerance then it will out perform the identical engine built tighter! Try it and see if you must! but you do trade off engine life by doing that.

302army187

lol, is 300+ out of a 302 that mysterious to you that you are trying to call me out with a dyno sheet?


I know guys with "junk" parts making 340-350rwhp out of 302's. just spinning them much higher then I did.

If I ported my heads, got a custom made cam to shift at 6800ish, and kept my victor 5.0 intake, my junkyard bottom end would make 350 easy.

It's not as hard as you think..... if you know what you're doing.

TrimDrip

I have a friend that did.lol He had is engine bored 6 thou over the the ring size. He wanted 8 but, the machinist wouldn't do it.

Venomantidote95

Well im far from not knowing engines and what to do with them thanks though, yes please present this proof. ACTUALLY i really dont care, the point being his engine is about where the norm is in MOST cases of similar setups.

Im not talking about light weight vlv trains spinning rediculous rpms to make it, plain jane stuff like HIS combo.

Something that you will drive daily, you wont be sinking money into titanium parts and such unless you just have plenty to **** away, not that the parts arent worth it just not practical in a street application.

There are always ifs and well i shouldas, but that proves nothing!

I guess that is all i have to say regardless of that after-posts!

302army187

lol, have fun with your 310rwhp gt40 head tfs1 cam 347 combo's guys like you like to make and make up excuses for the lack of power about it being a "daily driver" or "street car".

mjr46

hey lets all stop spewing BS dyno racing crap, argue with ET and your driving skills, rwhp means nothing to me, for example, if you post 300 rwhp numbers and run 13.0's....that tells the truth....dyno's are subjective and are a tuning tool, chase an et not a dyno.

302army187

I concur.

adrnlnjnky700

So if i take my car to the dyno and it runs 295hp and 302ARMY187 takes his there(same dyno, same day, same temps) and his makes 320. Then we go to the track and i run a 13 because i have slicks and can hook up and shift better, and he runs 14 because he is running continentals with 200 miles on them(in no way shape or form do i actually know how you shift, lol). How is the ET a better representation. Yes there are different dynos and one dyno will read different than the next, but i think theres a whole lot less variables in a dyno run then on the track. On a dyno your in 4th gear and you put your pedal to the floor, all you have to do is push your foot down, yes you might have a slipping clutch which will cause lower numbers but you dont have one lane thats in the sun and the other isnt because a big cloud is hanging over head. my car isnt set up to run a strip, its got eibach lowering springs, bigger sway bars and yokohama s-drive tires, its got speakers and the automatic mirrors still work. Not mickey thompsons, a stiffened up chasis and a gutted interior. If i go buy a car(just be my opinion and how i feel about the drag strip) and the guy has a dyno sheet that says this engine put up 500hp/475tq but then he shows me his ET and its a 14 should i not buy the car because its slow on the strip?

P.S. this is meant to be a nice discussion. if you cant play nice, go read a diff post.

bluebeastsrt

Oh brother. ET indicates driver skill. Trap speed is where you'll know how much power your making. If you run 13.0 @ 104 and 302 army runs 14.0 @110 that should tell you all you need to know.