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Old 12-16-2010, 06:39 PM
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I just found a rough materials performance diagram of 319 grade alum, treated to T5 standards.

http://www.sfsa.org/tutorials/eng_block/GMBlock_11b.htm

Of course, this is the grade of alum used in the Coyote. I have no clue what grade of alum the GT500's 5.4L engine uses, nor its heat treatment standard.
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Old 12-16-2010, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JIM5.0
I just found a rough materials performance diagram of 319 grade alum, treated to T5 standards.

http://www.sfsa.org/tutorials/eng_block/GMBlock_11b.htm

Of course, this is the grade of alum used in the Coyote. I have no clue what grade of alum the GT500's 5.4L engine uses, nor its heat treatment standard.
Good info on the engine block.....I love aluminum blocks....it's the flame spray on the cylinder walls I found concerning.....it turns out I confused the cylinder walls of the GT500 and 5.0....read below


2011 Mustang 5.0L production aluminum block
Low pressure cast 319 aluminum
Pressed-in thin-wall iron liners
92.2 mm bore size
Cross-bolted nodular iron main bearing caps
Thicker main webs for added strength
Machined for piston oil squirters, includes blockoff plugs. Oil squirters not included.
Includes dowels and plugs

The 5.0 is a great block as far as I am concerned.
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Old 12-16-2010, 07:25 PM
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I know, I was just kind of considering the "what-if" scenario of the Coyote actually using the spayed on cylinder liner (in lieu of pressed in cylinders used today).

Also, I am not even sure if the Coyote block is treated to T5. It could be untreated for all I know.

And with sprayed on liners or plasma treated liners, I wonder if Ford might dare to even think of doing that to the Coyote block and dispense with pressed in cylinder liners?
For now, I hope they do not, because the 8 lbf savings is not worth the more expensive process (I think it is more expensive).
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Old 12-16-2010, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JIM5.0
I know, I was just kind of considering the "what-if" scenario of the Coyote actually using the spayed on cylinder liner (in lieu of pressed in cylinders used today).

Also, I am not even sure if the Coyote block is treated to T5. It could be untreated for all I know.

And with sprayed on liners or plasma treated liners, I wonder if Ford might dare to even think of doing that to the Coyote block and dispense with pressed in cylinder liners?
I never looked into the spec of the metal type in the coyote block....I assume it's a high grade.
The 5.4 is using the plasma cylinder type and makes more horsepower than the 5.0....we'll have to assume it will go that way. I prefer the iron sleeve cylinders without a doubt over plasma spray cylinders and I don't think there is any hidden information out there that would change my mind, but u never know. As great as plasma technology is.....I don't like it in combustion chambers. In my opinion it cut costs.....hopefully it will be made in USA!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWWFy_WUtnY

This is many different types of plasma spray.....in a nut shell on you tube.
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