Witch car would go with?
10-02-2011, 02:41 PM
#1
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: KY
Posts: 9
Witch car would go with?
Looking at my 3rd Stang, can't decide witch.
Just sold my Harley, she will be missed. Now looking at my first love again, Mustangs.
A 12 GT with Brembo Brakes, manual, spoiler delete black on black or a 07 or 08 GT500?
Either of the cars will not be a daily driver but around town and to the strip for weekend fun. I can get cars close to the same price and love both. As far as mods go, I would start with the normal, exhaust, cold air intake, aluminum drive-shaft and slicks for the strip. Adding a supercharged or increasing the boost would happen in the future. Witch of these cars is more suited for these types of mods? Is the 5.4 in the 500 a better platform for adding more boost and drag racing at test and tune even with the extra weight? I love the 5.0 but the pistons are not forged and I hear problems with burning oil and number 8 cylinder... but then I have seen 11's from sticky tires exhaust and good drivers with the coyote.
All in all I would like some input from both sides to weigh the options?
Just sold my Harley, she will be missed. Now looking at my first love again, Mustangs.
A 12 GT with Brembo Brakes, manual, spoiler delete black on black or a 07 or 08 GT500?
Either of the cars will not be a daily driver but around town and to the strip for weekend fun. I can get cars close to the same price and love both. As far as mods go, I would start with the normal, exhaust, cold air intake, aluminum drive-shaft and slicks for the strip. Adding a supercharged or increasing the boost would happen in the future. Witch of these cars is more suited for these types of mods? Is the 5.4 in the 500 a better platform for adding more boost and drag racing at test and tune even with the extra weight? I love the 5.0 but the pistons are not forged and I hear problems with burning oil and number 8 cylinder... but then I have seen 11's from sticky tires exhaust and good drivers with the coyote.
All in all I would like some input from both sides to weigh the options?
10-02-2011, 05:22 PM
#3
2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: MD
Posts: 445
Personally, I'm not a big fan of the Shelby name. It's overpriced in my opinion. I'd roll w/ the Coyote and tastefully mod it as you wish. I'm a little of a purist, and would like to see what the new 5.0 has to offer naturally aspirated. You can always go forced induction later. Also, I do like to drag race, but I'm more of a road course guy myself, and nothing beats crushing the corners n/a.
10-02-2011, 06:40 PM
#7
The Paranoid One
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,320
I was in this dilemma as well.
We ended up going with the GT500.
We got one with only 3800 mi. for the same price as a new 5.0.
The GT500 is a MUCH better platform as far as to what the engine can take.
When you get to huge numbers people start comparing the GT500 and the 5.0 in terms of what can take that power as far as handling better.
But that is when you go into the big numbers.
You can always mod the GT500 suspension if you are worried about that.
Of course this could open a can of worms on debate on this forum as to
the suspension.
You would end up spending quite a bit more money on the 5.0 to add a supercharger etc. vs. just buying a GT500 with a supercharger already on it.
Not to mention the bigger 5.4L engine AND its ability to hold more power safely.
To answer your question. YES the GT500 IS better as far as adding more boost and power. It also handles more safely.
The 5.0 has not been out long enough to know just how long it will be able to take
boost, but with it's compression big boost is NOT good for it and can cause the engine to go KABOOM MUCH more easily than the GT500.
We went with the GT500 and are GLAD we did.
Plus... let me tell you something that is true whether owners admit it or not,
there is just SOMETHING about owning a Shelby GT500 that words can't
really explain hehe.
The 5.0 is a great car.
Nothing against it.
But I would not want to own one for putting big boost in it, ESPECIALLY if
I did not plan on going in to forge the engine etc.
There have been issues already with the 5.0 handling mods.
Even little mods. Dunno if you have heard about the #8 piston popping on some but they have... with only a CAI and tune. It is few and far in between but it still points out that the 5.0 has not been out long enough to determine long term mod reliability.
There are new 5.0's out there that are boosted that are doing well. Many of them.
But we don't know how long they will last. And they aren't running big boost if that is your game.
The 5.0's compression just makes it so it wont' handle big boost on it's own
without going in and forging the sucker etc.
Both great cars.
I'd definitely go with the GT500 though.
Some will disagree with me of course.
We ended up going with the GT500.
We got one with only 3800 mi. for the same price as a new 5.0.
The GT500 is a MUCH better platform as far as to what the engine can take.
When you get to huge numbers people start comparing the GT500 and the 5.0 in terms of what can take that power as far as handling better.
But that is when you go into the big numbers.
You can always mod the GT500 suspension if you are worried about that.
Of course this could open a can of worms on debate on this forum as to
the suspension.
You would end up spending quite a bit more money on the 5.0 to add a supercharger etc. vs. just buying a GT500 with a supercharger already on it.
Not to mention the bigger 5.4L engine AND its ability to hold more power safely.
To answer your question. YES the GT500 IS better as far as adding more boost and power. It also handles more safely.
The 5.0 has not been out long enough to know just how long it will be able to take
boost, but with it's compression big boost is NOT good for it and can cause the engine to go KABOOM MUCH more easily than the GT500.
We went with the GT500 and are GLAD we did.
Plus... let me tell you something that is true whether owners admit it or not,
there is just SOMETHING about owning a Shelby GT500 that words can't
really explain hehe.
The 5.0 is a great car.
Nothing against it.
But I would not want to own one for putting big boost in it, ESPECIALLY if
I did not plan on going in to forge the engine etc.
There have been issues already with the 5.0 handling mods.
Even little mods. Dunno if you have heard about the #8 piston popping on some but they have... with only a CAI and tune. It is few and far in between but it still points out that the 5.0 has not been out long enough to determine long term mod reliability.
There are new 5.0's out there that are boosted that are doing well. Many of them.
But we don't know how long they will last. And they aren't running big boost if that is your game.
The 5.0's compression just makes it so it wont' handle big boost on it's own
without going in and forging the sucker etc.
Both great cars.
I'd definitely go with the GT500 though.
Some will disagree with me of course.
10-02-2011, 06:42 PM
#8
The Paranoid One
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,320
Personally, I'm not a big fan of the Shelby name. It's overpriced in my opinion. I'd roll w/ the Coyote and tastefully mod it as you wish. I'm a little of a purist, and would like to see what the new 5.0 has to offer naturally aspirated. You can always go forced induction later. Also, I do like to drag race, but I'm more of a road course guy myself, and nothing beats crushing the corners n/a.
40 something K for a 550HP 5.4L alum engine with the other goodies?
You could go over that price easily with a new 5.0 and adding big mods.
Not to mention it won't take the power as safely and we don't know yet how long
the 5.0 will take boost without going boom.
Look at what you get for the price of the GT500. I'd say it is WELL worth it
if you have the money and is NOT overpriced. Is it more? Yes.
But you get more as well.
I think you may be taking in to
account dealer markup that SOME dealerships try to do when you say
you think they are overpriced.
Otherwise I just don't see the legitimacy in your comment.
You can get a new GT500 for MSRP EASILY if you know what dealerships
to do business with. Otherwise they will overprice you on the 5.0 as well.
To add to this:
He is talking about buying a 07-08 GT500.
We got ours for the same price as a 5.0 (not even a fully loaded 5.0)
with only 3800 mi. on it.
Overpriced? Think not. Virtually new and out of the box much more UMPHH and room to play with adding power wise.
(I do however think the Shelby GT was overpriced. Not many people argue with that.)
Last edited by Blacksmoke; 10-02-2011 at 06:50 PM.
