#8 cylinder plug issues-no tuner!
#11
I would ask your mechanic to check compression on all your cylinders before you decide to get your car tuned. Don't just buy a random mail order tune. Go with a tuner that request to see data-logs on your car before changing any parameters. This way he can see if everything is working properly and if your car is safe to tune. RESEARCH before you mod! Good luck!
#12
I was at one point in my life but have since moved on from that profession. But I still have and build Mustangs. One of my past builds made it into a magazine for how rare it was. I still stand behind my statement that your mechanic is blowing smoke. Which CAI do you have?
#13
I'm with the other guys on NOT TUNING your car until you really figure out what #8 looks like.
What did the plug look like when the tech pulled it and you really need to look at the cylinder with a borescope and perform a compression and leak down check on #8 to show what condition it's in.
Unfortunately once #8 misfires the damage is likely already done. It kills the rings.
Hopefully that hasn't happened.
What did the plug look like when the tech pulled it and you really need to look at the cylinder with a borescope and perform a compression and leak down check on #8 to show what condition it's in.
Unfortunately once #8 misfires the damage is likely already done. It kills the rings.
Hopefully that hasn't happened.
#14
Yes, my Ford mechanic checked compression before he did the work and afterwards. The tuner I was getting was recommended by several people and ones that race their stangs. A Bama SF3/x3 from American Muscle. The ones that have 3 custom tunes and tunes for life also warranty against #8 cylinder problems. It also has 100 reviews and 4.9 out of 5 stars. I am going to take it to another Ford dealership and see what their diagnostics pull up on my car now that the #8 cylinder spark plug was replaced. Thanks.
#15
We are only trying to help. Bama has a good reputation. Just make sure they look at data-logs on your car before they tune it. They can talk you through on how to data-log. If your rings look anything like the picture posted above and you just slap a tune in, then Ford will definitely deny a warranty claim. The new engine will be on you or Bama. I'm all for tuning but just make sure that it is safe to tune before you do it. Good luck!
#16
I was at one point in my life but have since moved on from that profession. But I still have and build Mustangs. One of my past builds made it into a magazine for how rare it was. I still stand behind my statement that your mechanic is blowing smoke. Which CAI do you have?
#17
http://www.mustangandfords.com/featu...ustang_mach_1/
Can you post a link of this CAI? I've never heard of it.
#18
Have the stock CAI put back on the car until you know for sure the car is safe to tune. Then you add a CAI with a tune simultaneously. Whoever told you to put an aftermarket CAI on your car without the proper tuning, may have cost you an engine. Not trying to scare you but this may be the case. That same person that told you to put a CAI on and that it will save you gas mileage, knows NOTHING about these cars. If these cars had came with a MAP sensor instead of a MAF sensor, then you could've put a CAI on without a tune and the car would adjust to the proper air fuel ratios. A MAF sensor does not work like that. Don't give up on your dream car. These are great cars but a different animal for sure. You just happened to get bad advise. For now, have the stock CAI put back on. If your number 8 cylinder is not damaged and your plugs and O2 sensors are working properly, then car should run fine with the stock CAI.
Last edited by Deranged2013; 11-05-2013 at 11:33 AM.
#19
Never heard of MMR (Modular Motorsports Racing). I found very little information about the GT CAI other than an initial announcement in 2010 but then nothing else to support it. I also cannot find it on their website. I found one for a V6, but that's not the same...
http://forums.themustangsource.com/f...-0-cai-483187/
http://www.modularmotorsportsracing.com/ toward the bottom of the page.
I wonder if they stopped making the GT one it due to problems? Just because a CAI doesn't require a tune doesn't mean it's 100% safe.
Anything that increases air flow can potentially cause the car to run leaner if not compensated for. Most OEM's run everything with a tolerance of +/-20% If you push that limit to say +/-5% then you will likely over-run that limit and cause problems on occasion (like a misfire).
http://forums.themustangsource.com/f...-0-cai-483187/
http://www.modularmotorsportsracing.com/ toward the bottom of the page.
I wonder if they stopped making the GT one it due to problems? Just because a CAI doesn't require a tune doesn't mean it's 100% safe.
Anything that increases air flow can potentially cause the car to run leaner if not compensated for. Most OEM's run everything with a tolerance of +/-20% If you push that limit to say +/-5% then you will likely over-run that limit and cause problems on occasion (like a misfire).
#20
Never heard of MMR (Modular Motorsports Racing). I found very little information about the GT CAI other than an initial announcement in 2010 but then nothing else to support it. I also cannot find it on their website. I found one for a V6, but that's not the same...
http://forums.themustangsource.com/f...-0-cai-483187/
http://www.modularmotorsportsracing.com/ toward the bottom of the page.
I wonder if they stopped making the GT one it due to problems? Just because a CAI doesn't require a tune doesn't mean it's 100% safe.
Anything that increases air flow can potentially cause the car to run leaner if not compensated for. Most OEM's run everything with a tolerance of +/-20% If you push that limit to say +/-5% then you will likely over-run that limit and cause problems on occasion (like a misfire).
http://forums.themustangsource.com/f...-0-cai-483187/
http://www.modularmotorsportsracing.com/ toward the bottom of the page.
I wonder if they stopped making the GT one it due to problems? Just because a CAI doesn't require a tune doesn't mean it's 100% safe.
Anything that increases air flow can potentially cause the car to run leaner if not compensated for. Most OEM's run everything with a tolerance of +/-20% If you push that limit to say +/-5% then you will likely over-run that limit and cause problems on occasion (like a misfire).
http://www.ebay.com/usr/modularmotorsports1877modpowr
The last one they sold on there for the Mustang 5.0 was June 18th I see. I called them yesterday and told them my issues. Of course they were going on that the CAI of theirs did not cause what happened and they back their product.