#8 cylinder plug issues-no tuner!
#21
Have the stock CAI put back on the car until you know for sure the car is safe to tune. Then you add a CAI with a tune simultaneously. Whoever told you to put an aftermarket CAI on your car without the proper tuning, may have cost you an engine. Not trying to scare you but this may be the case. That same person that told you to put a CAI on and that it will save you gas mileage, knows NOTHING about these cars. If these cars had came with a MAP sensor instead of a MAF sensor, then you could've put a CAI on without a tune and the car would adjust to the proper air fuel ratios. A MAF sensor does not work like that. Don't give up on your dream car. These are great cars but a different animal for sure. You just happened to get bad advise. For now, have the stock CAI put back on. If your number 8 cylinder is not damaged and your plugs and O2 sensors are working properly, then car should run fine with the stock CAI.
http://www.americanmuscle.com/airaid-cai-2011gt.html
Since Ford put in the new spark plug I can tell a big difference. I am taking it to another Ford this morning to get them to pull the cylinder to check it and make sure the rings are okay etc. I appreciate all the advice, but right now I am getting to many comflicting opinions. My husbands 87 Gt has all kinds of mods and nothing has gone wrong. I put just a CAI and Borla axlebacks and get this problem. Aggravating!
#22
Why do they make CAI that do not need tuning for Mustangs? Airaide makes them, BBK, SR performace and so on. Read their features. Look at their feedback for them. Many have no tunes and they get better gas mileage and feel some difference.
http://www.americanmuscle.com/airaid-cai-2011gt.html
Since Ford put in the new spark plug I can tell a big difference. I am taking it to another Ford this morning to get them to pull the cylinder to check it and make sure the rings are okay etc. I appreciate all the advice, but right now I am getting to many comflicting opinions. My husbands 87 Gt has all kinds of mods and nothing has gone wrong. I put just a CAI and Borla axlebacks and get this problem. Aggravating!
http://www.americanmuscle.com/airaid-cai-2011gt.html
Since Ford put in the new spark plug I can tell a big difference. I am taking it to another Ford this morning to get them to pull the cylinder to check it and make sure the rings are okay etc. I appreciate all the advice, but right now I am getting to many comflicting opinions. My husbands 87 Gt has all kinds of mods and nothing has gone wrong. I put just a CAI and Borla axlebacks and get this problem. Aggravating!
Last edited by Deranged2013; 11-06-2013 at 10:55 PM.
#23
I know MMR very well. They sell some of the cheapest parts/motors in the Modular world. But I've seen first hand many issues with their motors. And they never own up to it being their fault. Hopefully this turns out well for you. I did find the part on their website.
http://www.modularmustangracing.com....?pid=502&cid=1
I find it ironic you're the first person I've ever seen using it and I'm on every major Mustang site.
http://www.modularmustangracing.com....?pid=502&cid=1
I find it ironic you're the first person I've ever seen using it and I'm on every major Mustang site.
#24
I know MMR very well. They sell some of the cheapest parts/motors in the Modular world. But I've seen first hand many issues with their motors. And they never own up to it being their fault. Hopefully this turns out well for you. I did find the part on their website.
http://www.modularmustangracing.com....?pid=502&cid=1
I find it ironic you're the first person I've ever seen using it and I'm on every major Mustang site.
http://www.modularmustangracing.com....?pid=502&cid=1
I find it ironic you're the first person I've ever seen using it and I'm on every major Mustang site.
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...30.m2531.l4585
Just to ask, what makes different CAI different from each other? I compared my CAI from MMR to the BBK no tune and I don't see much difference? I nearly got the BBK one. Now I wish I didn't waste the money and got this one after what I have been hearing! Also, good news. When I took the car to the other dealership to get the second opinion, they asked who was my mechanic that found the problem? I told him the name and he said that he is the best there is around here and knows his stuff and they wish they could have him at their store. He is very meticulous at what he does and makes sure he covers his bases. They said he is a Senior Master Mechanic with 30 years experience. If he said I just had a bad spark plug and everything checks out fine, I would take it at his word.
#25
There's no difference between one CAI or another. Honestly the best one I've seen is the factory one. It's been proven there are no gains from any of the aftermarket CAI's, even the ones that do require a tune.
#26
#27
Why do they make CAI that do not need tuning for Mustangs? Airaide makes them, BBK, SR performace and so on. Read their features. Look at their feedback for them. Many have no tunes and they get better gas mileage and feel some difference.
http://www.americanmuscle.com/airaid-cai-2011gt.html
http://www.americanmuscle.com/airaid-cai-2011gt.html
The Airaid can be used without a tune only if you leave the sleeve inset inside the main tube.
That sleeve insert restricts air flow to match what the stock intake box flows.
If you remove the insert sleeve, you must obtain a tune to correct for the additional air flow.
#28
Because people will buy them... just like companies make fancy throttle body adapters and such.
The 5.0 already has a cold air intake... a proper one.. that draws air from outside the engine bay.
The open aftermarket ones are exposed to air much warmer than the ambient temperature.. Since the flow of the stock air box is already adequate, all you are doing with an aftermarket is making it look pretty and not much else.
The CAI does nothing. It's a tune that increases HP. The claims about gas milage are complete rubbish. Adding a no-tune CAI is an appearance mod, nothing more. Adding a tune-CAI without a tune.. is a good way to mess up your car.
This is a BOSS 302 LEGUNA SECA!!>. Notice.. NO CAI. After all the trouble they went through.. I doubt they forgot to add it. They didn't add one because the stock box was the same or better.
The 5.0 already has a cold air intake... a proper one.. that draws air from outside the engine bay.
The open aftermarket ones are exposed to air much warmer than the ambient temperature.. Since the flow of the stock air box is already adequate, all you are doing with an aftermarket is making it look pretty and not much else.
The CAI does nothing. It's a tune that increases HP. The claims about gas milage are complete rubbish. Adding a no-tune CAI is an appearance mod, nothing more. Adding a tune-CAI without a tune.. is a good way to mess up your car.
This is a BOSS 302 LEGUNA SECA!!>. Notice.. NO CAI. After all the trouble they went through.. I doubt they forgot to add it. They didn't add one because the stock box was the same or better.
Last edited by MrSandman; 11-22-2013 at 11:04 PM.
#29
I had a 93 race tune with stock intake, then got a steeda CAI and had it retuned and noticed an improvement in power and sound. Worthwhile imo.
I do wish the steeda had a sleeve i could put in to be able to return to the stock tune if needed though, so mabe airaid has an advantage in that aspect.
I do wish the steeda had a sleeve i could put in to be able to return to the stock tune if needed though, so mabe airaid has an advantage in that aspect.
Last edited by Andy13186; 11-23-2013 at 12:26 PM.
#30
So you got a better tune... Put your stock air box on with that tune and I doubt you'll notice a difference.
A CAI without supporting mods (like a Boss intake and headers) just doesn't do anything. You are still limited by how much air can flow through the stock engine. With the 05-10's, the stock air box was restrictive. The 11+ is not. It meets or exceeds the engine's needs for air. The tuners even say this.. the only thing they can claim is a CAI makes air uptake "more efficient".... not that it allows more air into the engine. You'd have to open up the whole air intake system and such to allow that extra air from a CAI into the engine.
It's like giving you a bigger mouth without increasing the size of your digestive system You can fit more food in your mouth.. but its just gonna sit there till your able to swallow it ;P
A CAI without supporting mods (like a Boss intake and headers) just doesn't do anything. You are still limited by how much air can flow through the stock engine. With the 05-10's, the stock air box was restrictive. The 11+ is not. It meets or exceeds the engine's needs for air. The tuners even say this.. the only thing they can claim is a CAI makes air uptake "more efficient".... not that it allows more air into the engine. You'd have to open up the whole air intake system and such to allow that extra air from a CAI into the engine.
It's like giving you a bigger mouth without increasing the size of your digestive system You can fit more food in your mouth.. but its just gonna sit there till your able to swallow it ;P
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