Service Power Steering Help
05-04-2018, 02:06 PM
#21
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 13
Torpedo, I can feel your pain. Last month my 2014 GT needed a new power rack. The dealer told me to replace it would cost $2400.00. I asked why the whole rack had to be replaced, and my service advisor explained that the "Chip" inside the rack goes bad. This "chip" is sealed inside the steering rack when manufactured, and the chip is destroyed if you try to cut it out and replace it. Luckily I had a thousand miles left on my "extended/bumper to bumper coverage before it ran out. So the new rack ended up costing me $100.00 because of the "deductible". I can't believe these idiots can't manufacture a power steering rack with a "external" chip.
05-04-2018, 02:10 PM
#22
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 13
From just some quick searches you have to lift the motor. Plus the alignment, which you can get close by marking threads or counting tie rod end turns. I use Les Schwab Tire Center pretty often and they do GREAT WORK, but... in CA they don't install supplied parts. Period. So there's that... I don't know your level of mechanical aptitude but it sounds like it's decently involved, but probably not impossible with a good manual, just gonna suck up time and take some trips to align and such. I'd decide whether saving a couple bucks is worth the hassle. Also... F**K Ford. lol. They never recommend anything cool.
If you're feeling unsettled: find some one who has the BOSS rack and ask them how it went. Problem solved. Do a search, I'm sure there are multiple threads.
If you're feeling unsettled: find some one who has the BOSS rack and ask them how it went. Problem solved. Do a search, I'm sure there are multiple threads.
The job does look involved, but I'm having trouble finding shops outside of Ford that would install a used rack. I found a rack for $175, and labor seems to be averaging about $500 based on my calls to shops.
So, debating if it's worth the gamble on the junkyard rack or just suck it up and pay $1800 to be done with this.
05-05-2018, 05:52 AM
#23
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Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 489
Service Power Steering Help
Torpedo, you hit the nail right on the head. Ford Racing is right. I see this as a safety issue. When the Power Steering Rack failed, I immediately lost control of 90% of steering capability. It took me half a hour to get to the dealership. Luckily I was just a few miles away, and had everyone blowing their horns and shaking their heads and hands. Unless you can press 800 pounds,forget about "safely" being able to steer if this unit fails.
05-06-2018, 04:00 PM
#24
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Location: Pennsylvania
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No matter how you put the tie-rod ends back on, turns, or marking, it
doesn't account for metal fatigue, ball joint & bushing wear. I have a 2003
Silverado, and I put new tie rod ends on it. I marked it, not to mention
you really didn't have to, because you could clearly see where the stop
nut went on the inner tie rod. Anyhow, I put them back on, DEAD on
with new new ends, and it was WAY out... I lined it up by eye and
did much better... I put the car up in jack stands, enough to have
the front wheels barely off the ground, just a tad of touch. Lock the
wheel straight, and adjust by eye... The only car I could not do was
the HHR, because the lower control arm wafer bushings were shot...
Replaced those arms, and the alignment was horrendous.
The tie rod ends on the Silverado were so bad, the passenger side had
no boot left around the ball joint, and could not put any grease into it.
The driver side was half gone, took grease though, and they PASSED
inspection that way, because, there was no play in the ball joints.
doesn't account for metal fatigue, ball joint & bushing wear. I have a 2003
Silverado, and I put new tie rod ends on it. I marked it, not to mention
you really didn't have to, because you could clearly see where the stop
nut went on the inner tie rod. Anyhow, I put them back on, DEAD on
with new new ends, and it was WAY out... I lined it up by eye and
did much better... I put the car up in jack stands, enough to have
the front wheels barely off the ground, just a tad of touch. Lock the
wheel straight, and adjust by eye... The only car I could not do was
the HHR, because the lower control arm wafer bushings were shot...
Replaced those arms, and the alignment was horrendous.
The tie rod ends on the Silverado were so bad, the passenger side had
no boot left around the ball joint, and could not put any grease into it.
The driver side was half gone, took grease though, and they PASSED
inspection that way, because, there was no play in the ball joints.
Last edited by 08'MustangDude; 05-06-2018 at 04:02 PM.
05-08-2018, 11:43 AM
#25
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 13
No matter how you put the tie-rod ends back on, turns, or marking, it
doesn't account for metal fatigue, ball joint & bushing wear. I have a 2003
Silverado, and I put new tie rod ends on it. I marked it, not to mention
you really didn't have to, because you could clearly see where the stop
nut went on the inner tie rod. Anyhow, I put them back on, DEAD on
with new new ends, and it was WAY out... I lined it up by eye and
did much better... I put the car up in jack stands, enough to have
the front wheels barely off the ground, just a tad of touch. Lock the
wheel straight, and adjust by eye... The only car I could not do was
the HHR, because the lower control arm wafer bushings were shot...
Replaced those arms, and the alignment was horrendous.
The tie rod ends on the Silverado were so bad, the passenger side had
no boot left around the ball joint, and could not put any grease into it.
The driver side was half gone, took grease though, and they PASSED
inspection that way, because, there was no play in the ball joints.
doesn't account for metal fatigue, ball joint & bushing wear. I have a 2003
Silverado, and I put new tie rod ends on it. I marked it, not to mention
you really didn't have to, because you could clearly see where the stop
nut went on the inner tie rod. Anyhow, I put them back on, DEAD on
with new new ends, and it was WAY out... I lined it up by eye and
did much better... I put the car up in jack stands, enough to have
the front wheels barely off the ground, just a tad of touch. Lock the
wheel straight, and adjust by eye... The only car I could not do was
the HHR, because the lower control arm wafer bushings were shot...
Replaced those arms, and the alignment was horrendous.
The tie rod ends on the Silverado were so bad, the passenger side had
no boot left around the ball joint, and could not put any grease into it.
The driver side was half gone, took grease though, and they PASSED
inspection that way, because, there was no play in the ball joints.
05-09-2018, 11:02 PM
#26
Join Date: May 2018
Location: California
Posts: 1
Seems like I'm facing the same issues on 2016 Mustang GT as Torpedo. The instrument cluster shows 3 Faults 1)Hill start assist not available 2)ESC service required 3)Steering assist malfunction service required.
I couldn't turn the steering wheel and it's shaking while i'm forcing them. see the video below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzlR...ature=youtu.be
I couldn't turn the steering wheel and it's shaking while i'm forcing them. see the video below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzlR...ature=youtu.be
05-10-2018, 12:26 AM
#27
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 13
Seems like I'm facing the same issues on 2016 Mustang GT as Torpedo. The instrument cluster shows 3 Faults 1)Hill start assist not available 2)ESC service required 3)Steering assist malfunction service required.
I couldn't turn the steering wheel and it's shaking while i'm forcing them. see the video below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzlR...ature=youtu.be
I couldn't turn the steering wheel and it's shaking while i'm forcing them. see the video below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzlR...ature=youtu.be
Got mine fixed today, so far so good. It's nice not having to worry about it acting up anymore, especially on the highway.
Just hoping Ford does the right thing and issues a recall so I can get my money back on their garbage engineering.
01-28-2020, 02:04 PM
#28
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Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 489
Service Power Steering Help
Dear TORPEDO, and others. I responded in 2018 about my power steering rack needing to be replaced on my 2014 Mustang GT Premium. So today 1-28-2020, guess what??? Yup, you guessed it, that piece of Ford OEM crap went bad today. And why should Ford have a recall on such a MONEY MAKER piece of junk??? The car is six years old, and on its second, OEM replacement, power rack.
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