4 to 5 lug switch
 

I have a '65 coupe with a 200 I6 and a C4 trans. The original motor was junked years ago so the numbers don't match and I'm thinking I wan't to get rid of the little 6 for a V8. I also want to do disc brakes all the way around so I have to convert the 4 lug hubs and axles to 5. Any advice???

New rear end, I believe V8 spindles, V8 steering parts. Will most likely need a new driveshaft too.

You can swap in an 8 inch rear end from a V8 car and get Granada front disc brakes.

You can also get a Versailles 9 inch rear end.

You can also check out these guys CSRP for front brakes. discbrakeswap.com

I have Granada front and Versailles rear.

Sell the car and buy a v8 one its cheaper.Most spend 3 grand to swap it over and thats not counting engine or tranny.If you still want to http://www.mustangandfords.com/howto...ade/index.html

True- It's not as easy as it sounds, you need to replace the engine, trans, driveshaft, rear axle, front spindles, brakes, and steering linkage, cooling system, exhaust system, engine electrical, fuel lines, and some other stuff.

You can get front discs for the 6/4-bolt, dual headers & dual exhaust, t-5 5-speed trans, make the car faster and more economical, all sorts of stuff, with the 6. Have fun, save a bundle, and a lot less work.

I did a V8 conversion on mine and it was not that difficult. However, I would have probably upgraded alot of the parts like the rear end and I would have done the T5 anyway. So, the conversion cost for me wouldn't be much different than if my car was originally a V8 car that I upgraded. Besides that I love my Mustang and it was my first car that I have had for about 15 years. If I had to do over again I would do it the same way.

I will agree that swapping to a V8 is a bit more work than most think when they go into it. You have to change out everything that 2+2GT said. I upgraded most (not all) of those parts anyway, so it woudn't have mattered if they were stock V8 or I6 parts.

Agreed that buying a V8 car would be easier but this particular vehicle is very clean and has sentimental value to me. Can't let her go that easily.

Thats why I kept mine too.

this is not true, i spend under $1800 on my 302/c4 swap.:icon_playing:

And for roughly 1/10 of that amount, you could put 4-bolt disc brakes on it. In one afternoon.

And still have a crappy wheel selection.

But here's the thing-

And as such, he probably has little interest in putting Krazy Kustom Wheelz on it.

The conversion I refer to would allow him to retain the stone-stock steel wheels and wheel covers (and tires). Just the thing for a "sentimental" car, especially if he's on a budget. It's likely he has no interest in spending $1000 on wheels and tires alone just to get the safety of disc brakes.

Really? Here's my personal favorite.

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There are others, though-

http://www.freedomcruisin.com/Hollyw...w_2_Wheels.jpg
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This is just a small sample. There are many aluminum wheels available for the 14x4.5 wheel pattern. When I was a kid, I had a 66 Sprint, and I'd have killed for the wheel choices now available. For a while, even the Cragar SS was made in four-spoke. Sadly, they are no longer made.

So 3 wheel possibilities, maybe a couple more. Meanwhile 5 lug has hundreds.

You missed the last line-

Here's nine hundred twenty four more choices. So let's forget about that "no choices for 4-bolt Mustangs" stuff. :)

http://www.summitracing.com/search/p...rder=Ascending

You added that after I had already replied, so no I didn't miss it.

Also those 900 choices are the same wheels with different widths and offsets not actually a different wheel design.

If you want to do it that way here are 10,000+ wheels for 5 lug.

http://www.summitracing.com/search/p...esults=display

EDIT: I'll even go a step further and pick a 15x8 wheel with 4.5" backspacing.

5 lug - 114 choices
4 lug -11 choices

Or how about just any 8" wheel with 4.5" backspacing

5 lug - 329
4 lug- 23

So what's your point? If one of the nearly a thousand choices fits your taste, then ten times that means nothing.

Or, in his case, using my advice, he can simply keep the wheels and tires he has now, and avoid the whole issue (and expense), which was my original point before we got dragged off into the 4 vs 5 bolt wheel choice distraction. In fact, he won't even need to shell out the $100+ for wheel alignment if he follows my advice. When switching to 5-bolt, you have to buy wheels, get an alignment, and probably spring for tires, too. That's over a thousand dollars, just for more "choice".

My personal choice with 5 bolt cars is two. Factory Styled Steel wheels, or the Magnum 500. So the other 9,998 mean nothing to me. You see, such things are a very personal thing. How many different wheels have you used on your cars? Surely less than a thousand. :)

I never said anything about using 1000 different wheels. I said 4 lug wheel selection sucks and for 5 lug it doesn't, which i have proven.

All I see is you dont like being wrong and you are trying anything to make yourself look right or prove what I've said is irrelevant. Quite sad really.

Wheel choice may be a personal preference, but every person is different. Just because you only like 2 of the 1000 wheels doesnt mean the next will like those same exact wheels. The wheels I would choose arent even sold by summit racing. If the budget allowed I'd go for CCW, HRE, True Forged, Enkei, etc. Large wheel selection allows for modified cars to look different from each other. It gets boring going to a show and seeing most cars with a magnum 500 or torque thrust wheel.

As for me I've had 7 different wheels. My next project will have at least 2-3 sets of wheels. None of my cars will have the same wheel design.

To the contrary, since you caused me to put a number on it, you proved me right. I showed three different wheels. You said big deal. So I linked nearly a thousand more wheels, which was much better than I expected, frankly.

Unless you think a THOUSAND choices "sucks". :)

I agree, I have an I6 to V8 swap and good thing I went that way I get to change everything and upgrade alot.

I just did the CSRP swap/conversion, wow! it was nice set-up and Dennis was a big awesome help.