Fast and furious tokyo drift
#21
RE: Fast and furious tokyo drift
ORIGINAL: 67Rally
Oh, great. Now we get to hear classic American muscle wind up like sewing machine with Yuban-can exhaust. Puhleaze!
Japan still can't compete with the big boys. Their miserable attempt to break into Top Fuel Funny cars illustrates this. So, instead people try to justify this by going after 40-50 year-old technology with the modern rice-age. That mentality is about as intelligent as comparing a Ford focus to a '68 Corolla. What's the point?
These Too Fast, Too Stupid films serve no purpose.
Oh, great. Now we get to hear classic American muscle wind up like sewing machine with Yuban-can exhaust. Puhleaze!
Japan still can't compete with the big boys. Their miserable attempt to break into Top Fuel Funny cars illustrates this. So, instead people try to justify this by going after 40-50 year-old technology with the modern rice-age. That mentality is about as intelligent as comparing a Ford focus to a '68 Corolla. What's the point?
These Too Fast, Too Stupid films serve no purpose.
there's an intrepid up the street from me with dual fart cans on it that looks cooler than that! the only exhaust this machine needs is 3 inch straight pipes. NO cats NO mufflers, attached to a massively ginormous V8 like a stroked 460 (whatever the final CI-ags would be on that!)
it's a shame enough you see them on the newer mustangs. i kinda feel like jumping off a bridge now. i dunno, maybe it's just me?
EDIT: the important thing is, above all else, it's still a MUSTANG!!!!!! and they can never take that away!
#22
RE: Fast and furious tokyo drift
Don't get me wrong. I am not a devotee of the Skyline, but the RB26Dett engine is 2.6 liter, dual overhead cam, 24 valve, twin turbo charged, and
intercooled producing 276 hp @ 6800rpm, capable of handling over 600 hp without
internal modifications. Can a ford engine produce over 600 hp without enternal mods? Nissan finally got the GTR to where it can be exported to the United States. It will be interesting to see whether or not it is the same GTR as they sell in Japan.
intercooled producing 276 hp @ 6800rpm, capable of handling over 600 hp without
internal modifications. Can a ford engine produce over 600 hp without enternal mods? Nissan finally got the GTR to where it can be exported to the United States. It will be interesting to see whether or not it is the same GTR as they sell in Japan.
#23
RE: Fast and furious tokyo drift
ORIGINAL: Soaring
Don't get me wrong. I am not a devotee of the Skyline, but the RB26Dett engine is 2.6 liter, dual overhead cam, 24 valve, twin turbo charged, and
intercooled producing 276 hp @ 6800rpm, capable of handling over 600 hp without
internal modifications. Can a ford engine produce over 600 hp without enternal mods? Nissan finally got the GTR to where it can be exported to the United States. It will be interesting to see whether or not it is the same GTR as they sell in Japan.
Don't get me wrong. I am not a devotee of the Skyline, but the RB26Dett engine is 2.6 liter, dual overhead cam, 24 valve, twin turbo charged, and
intercooled producing 276 hp @ 6800rpm, capable of handling over 600 hp without
internal modifications. Can a ford engine produce over 600 hp without enternal mods? Nissan finally got the GTR to where it can be exported to the United States. It will be interesting to see whether or not it is the same GTR as they sell in Japan.
What are the torque #s for that RB-thing? What is the cost? I can get more HP and torque out of my 289 than that hamste/wheel contraption and I don't have to mortage the homestead in the process.
Screw Nissan, Honda, and Toyota (I do own Honda's btw). I'lll take Ford muscle anyday.
#25
RE: Fast and furious tokyo drift
Hey Glen we had an engine like that too.. Buick 3.8L V6 in a GNX.. Anything will make more power by throwin more boost at it. The smaller it is, the more rpm it needs to make power. 276@6800 isnt that impressive, you will need alot of gear to get it moving because there isnt much torque down low. Thats the problem with the tiny engines, you need too much RPM to get the power out. High RPM causes wear and stress on every part in the engine. AN engine built to run 9000 rpm and make 500hp@9000 wont live as long as a 500hp engine that makes its peak at 5500. The lower rpm engine will also need less gear and be alot more tractable on the street.
If your car has to fit some race class with a ci limit, then sure build a small engine. If its on the street or grudge night at the drags, you better bring a big stick.
The mustang with the 6 could do the drifting crap, so they built one with a 430+ ci Windsor. It was built to go sideways so it wouldnt ET very well. The skyline engine was able to get it in the 13's.
Currently in the skunk works here, there are plans for an all aluminum V8 with 425cfm heads that will make 900- 1200hp on pump gas. Sure it wont get great mileage but that isnt the point.
My point is the kids who think these engines and cars are so impressive dont know much about cars, engines, and racing. Sure some guys want to go fast with a small engine or whatever, I can understand that because I like to go fast with Pontiacs and Clevelands when I could do it with a chevy like everyone else, I just prefer my engines over the chevy and anything from across the left pond. If these kids knew how easy it is to get power out of V8s and how cheap it really is, they woudnt be playin around with 2L hondas.
So thier cars are lighter, big deal. I am building a street car that will be around 2400-2600lbs and its gettin that aluminum engine I mentioned earlier. Can you say low 8's or high 7's? Sure the engine will cost me around $12k-$15k to build, but that is about how much that amount of HP will cost for any V8. The body will look stock, and it wont look like a race car. Its gonna be real close to the ultimate sleeper.
If your car has to fit some race class with a ci limit, then sure build a small engine. If its on the street or grudge night at the drags, you better bring a big stick.
The mustang with the 6 could do the drifting crap, so they built one with a 430+ ci Windsor. It was built to go sideways so it wouldnt ET very well. The skyline engine was able to get it in the 13's.
Currently in the skunk works here, there are plans for an all aluminum V8 with 425cfm heads that will make 900- 1200hp on pump gas. Sure it wont get great mileage but that isnt the point.
My point is the kids who think these engines and cars are so impressive dont know much about cars, engines, and racing. Sure some guys want to go fast with a small engine or whatever, I can understand that because I like to go fast with Pontiacs and Clevelands when I could do it with a chevy like everyone else, I just prefer my engines over the chevy and anything from across the left pond. If these kids knew how easy it is to get power out of V8s and how cheap it really is, they woudnt be playin around with 2L hondas.
So thier cars are lighter, big deal. I am building a street car that will be around 2400-2600lbs and its gettin that aluminum engine I mentioned earlier. Can you say low 8's or high 7's? Sure the engine will cost me around $12k-$15k to build, but that is about how much that amount of HP will cost for any V8. The body will look stock, and it wont look like a race car. Its gonna be real close to the ultimate sleeper.
#26
RE: Fast and furious tokyo drift
ORIGINAL: Soaring
Oh, me too. I don't own any foreign cars. The point is though, that for such a small engine, the Japanese have managed to produce a lot of horses from it.
Oh, me too. I don't own any foreign cars. The point is though, that for such a small engine, the Japanese have managed to produce a lot of horses from it.
FWD for most, and AWD for the skyline
i bet if they had RWD and ONLY RWD in all imports, it would be half the power
#28
RE: Fast and furious tokyo drift
ORIGINAL: Soaring
The point is though, that for such a small engine, the Japanese have managed to produce a lot of horses from it.
The point is though, that for such a small engine, the Japanese have managed to produce a lot of horses from it.
As noted, there is squat for torque in any of these cars. Try getting off the line in that rice-fed '67 Mustang against a 289 2v.
#29
RE: Fast and furious tokyo drift
ORIGINAL: Soaring
Huh? What does AWD or RWD have to do with the power of the engine?
Huh? What does AWD or RWD have to do with the power of the engine?
#30
RE: Fast and furious tokyo drift
ORIGINAL: atomsk680
i thought since the power doesnt have to travel as far to the rear, FWD cars get mroe power with a smaller engine then do RWD get with a smaller engine. i heard this somewhere or i mightve dreamt it
ORIGINAL: Soaring
Huh? What does AWD or RWD have to do with the power of the engine?
Huh? What does AWD or RWD have to do with the power of the engine?