Hydraulic clutch VS Cable clutch
So I have been told that I should just go ahead and spend the extra money to get a hydraulic setup. I have heard they are MUCH easier to engage. Are cable set ups that big of a hassle? I know there are some people on here with T-5 setups so input would be great.
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yeah ive driven a few classic stangs with cable clutches, its a pain in the ass for daily driving, and when you let it out just driving regularly it can chirp when ur not trying[&:] stiff as ... well use ur imagination. go with the hydraulic.
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+1
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I forked out the extra few hundred bucks for a hydraulic clutch and I love it. Definitely worth the money.
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The only person I know on this board who has used both with the same vehicle is JamesW. You may want to PM him and see what he thinks.
I have the Mustang Steve cable setup on my '65 (don't know if that is available for your '69) and I can tell you that it is MUCH easier to depress the clutch pedal with the diaphragm pressure plate than it was with the factory linkage and long style pressure plate. Engagement is smooth and linear and really works well. His kit is great because it mimics the proven geometry of the Fox body and uses an off the shelf Fox body aftermarket ADJUSTABLE cable. Also nice is the clutch can be adjusted at the firewall without getting under the vehicle. Ooops, I just looked at his site and it won't work with the '69 due to cowl differences. Good luck! |
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Right..I've had actually all 3 variations in mine over the last 7 years. Mine was one of the prototype (re: lab rats) for Steve's cable clutch. We fabbed my clutch pedal bracket and cable attachment in his garage one Saturday. I was quite happy with the performance of the cable clutch, except that in my case, I couldn't get it far enough away from my long tube Heddman headers. It would heat up and melt the cable housing. That's why I came up with the home made hydraulic system.
The cable system is simpler, and will clear power brakes. The hydraulic is better for hard to fit applications but will not work with power brakes. Reliability has not been an issue. The pedal feel to me was just about identical. (I also recommend you use a king cobra clutch) http://midnightdsigns.com/Mustang/HYD%20Clutch.htm |
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ORIGINAL: JamesW Right..I've had actually all 3 variations in mine over the last 7 years. Mine was one of the prototype (re: lab rats) for Steve's cable clutch. We fabbed my clutch pedal bracket and cable attachment in his garage one Saturday. I was quite happy with the performance of the cable clutch, except that in my case, I couldn't get it far enough away from my long tube Heddman headers. It would heat up and melt the cable housing. That's why I came up with the home made hydraulic system. The cable system is simpler, and will clear power brakes. The hydraulic is better for hard to fit applications but will not work with power brakes. Reliability has not been an issue. The pedal feel to me was just about identical. (I also recommend you use a king cobra clutch) http://midnightdsigns.com/Mustang/HYD%20Clutch.htm But allow me to ask why could you have power brakes with a 4-speed transmission in a 65 but the fluid system won't work? My 95 Z/28 has both with no problem. Could you post a picture of your fluid clutch? I need to see where the master cylinder is. |
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Installation of the M/C will not clear the power booster housing.
http://midnightdsigns.com/Mustang/HC...HClutch001.jpg |
RE: Hydraulic clutch VS Cable clutch
I prefer a nice mechanical connection. Modern Stangs (up to '04 anyway) use cable clutches, and there aren't any engagement issues.[&:]
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i've heard about the cable clearancew/ headers issue from a few mustang guys
too bad to hear that the hydraulic clutch wont' work w/ power brakes - I know I had to make a custom upper rod to connect to the Zbar and put a bend in it to get around the brake booster when i put the pwr/disc brakes in. Was planning on eventually going w/ the hydraulic clutch. to the custom fab guys - would there be a way to put the master cylinder in the car , perhaps mounted backwards on the firewall where the rod would go through, and have the rod connect to the pedal w/ a " U " shaped rod - going forward toward the driver and then connect to the driver's side of the pedal (just reverse everything and put the working parts inside, w/ the master cylinder next to the clutch pedal). I have no idea if the space would even be there to try it... was just thinking about ways around this. mikethebike - is the 56 setup your talking about the pwr brake system that works off the power steering pump (fluid based power-assist instead of vacuum pressure assist) ? |
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I am with you, I hate hyd clutches, I have never even been happy with the OEM hyd. clutches, I guess it could be that I have just had bad luck with a good product?
I am going with the Mustang Steve's setup as well. |
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My hydraulic clutch made it through a fire that killed everything under my hood and got behind the firewall into my wiring and interior. The only thing I had to replace was the resivor (spell check) that I got outa the junk yard for a dollar.
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I have a hydraulic clutch and a power brake system on my 68 and both work great. I have the JME setup and used a power brake booster from a fox v8 stang. Minor modifications to the firewall but you would never know. You can have the best of both worlds, it just takes a little moreeffort. :D
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You can have a juice clutch with 67 + cars. It's just the 1st gen cars that have the booster interference issue.
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ORIGINAL: royal68 i've heard about the cable clearancew/ headers issue from a few mustang guys too bad to hear that the hydraulic clutch wont' work w/ power brakes - I know I had to make a custom upper rod to connect to the Zbar and put a bend in it to get around the brake booster when i put the pwr/disc brakes in. Was planning on eventually going w/ the hydraulic clutch. to the custom fab guys - would there be a way to put the master cylinder in the car , perhaps mounted backwards on the firewall where the rod would go through, and have the rod connect to the pedal w/ a " U " shaped rod - going forward toward the driver and then connect to the driver's side of the pedal (just reverse everything and put the working parts inside, w/ the master cylinder next to the clutch pedal). I have no idea if the space would even be there to try it... was just thinking about ways around this. mikethebike - is the 56 setup your talking about the pwr brake system that works off the power steering pump (fluid based power-assist instead of vacuum pressure assist) ? |
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ORIGINAL: JMD I am with you, I hate hyd clutches, I have never even been happy with the OEM hyd. clutches, I guess it could be that I have just had bad luck with a good product? I am going with the Mustang Steve's setup as well. |
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has anyone ever tried making their own hydralic clutch instead of spending alotof money on one i off road race and build my own cars and we doall the master cylinders and slave cylinders ourselves
and you could use a pedal like thishttp://cncbrakes.com/images/262.jpginsteadof the stock oneand then you wont need to worry about the brake booster being in the way of the MS |
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It shouldn't be any harder or easier than making one for an off road application. I say if you think you can do it hten go for it!
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ya im doing a full restoration and im gonna convert it to a stick so i was looking around for the hydralic conversion kits and the ones i saw were like400-600 bucks and i get the same parts and make my own for 100 bucks tops so why not :D
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I regards to the old T-bird power brake boosters. These are called a Midland booster and are used in combination with the single piston master cylinders of that era. They can not be used with a dual master cylinder. There are several remote vacuum boostersthat are designed to work with dual master cylinders. They are priced higher than the conventional power brake booster.
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In regards to the remote T-bird power brake boosters. These are called a Midland booster and they are designed to work with a single piston master cylinder that was used back then. There are several after market remote brake boosters available for dual master cylinders but they are priced higher than the regular conventional booster that is attached to the master cylinder.
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