Removing Emiisions From a '66 Coupe 289
#1
Removing Emiisions From a '66 Coupe 289
With my '66 Coupe and 289, and as far as I can tell its from the factory stock. California emissions with a resonator(?) and stock single exhaust/muffler.
My plan is to remove the emissions controls/pump and associated hoses for a cleaner engine compartment, and open up the exhaust (still considering my options on that). But my questions are for those that have done that; I would expect a snappier engine and performance and possibly a slight increase in mpg, but Im hoping for some input about things I could miss. Are there any other areas where I should consider changing because of X since it is a California/emisions car? Eventually I want to replace the 2bbl with a 4bbl, but Im shooting for the easier less price upgrages at the moment, and considering it a "stock" car but want a little more "fun" out of it. Everything I remove will be stored until I decide the final set up.
Thanks
Steve
My plan is to remove the emissions controls/pump and associated hoses for a cleaner engine compartment, and open up the exhaust (still considering my options on that). But my questions are for those that have done that; I would expect a snappier engine and performance and possibly a slight increase in mpg, but Im hoping for some input about things I could miss. Are there any other areas where I should consider changing because of X since it is a California/emisions car? Eventually I want to replace the 2bbl with a 4bbl, but Im shooting for the easier less price upgrages at the moment, and considering it a "stock" car but want a little more "fun" out of it. Everything I remove will be stored until I decide the final set up.
Thanks
Steve
#2
It would be a violation of CA and Federal law to remove the smog equipment, although I never heard of anyone being cited. The smog equipment is not a drag on performance, it only uses about 2 hp.
Cleaning up the exhaust ports of excess metal and matching them to the exhaust will improve performance even if you don't change the cam or exhaust system. The lousy exhaust ports on these engines are a real drag on performance, when I port-matched mine it felt like I'd put a better cam in it.
Another thing you can do is have the distributor professionally curved, they are almost always out of spec, which also kills performance.
Just fixing the distributor and port-matching the exhaust (along with a normal tune-up) will noticeably improve performance, even if you leave the 2V, stock cam, and single exhaust on the car.
Cleaning up the exhaust ports of excess metal and matching them to the exhaust will improve performance even if you don't change the cam or exhaust system. The lousy exhaust ports on these engines are a real drag on performance, when I port-matched mine it felt like I'd put a better cam in it.
Another thing you can do is have the distributor professionally curved, they are almost always out of spec, which also kills performance.
Just fixing the distributor and port-matching the exhaust (along with a normal tune-up) will noticeably improve performance, even if you leave the 2V, stock cam, and single exhaust on the car.
#3
Lucky me, the only way they would find out around here is if for some reason I would need an inspection, or I sell the car to someone in a restrictive area like Seattle or Spokane. )
The main reason I would do it is because of the gaudy parts involved making the engine compartment look tormented. Tubes and hosees are just cluttering up the view.
The main reason I would do it is because of the gaudy parts involved making the engine compartment look tormented. Tubes and hosees are just cluttering up the view.
#4
If you remove the smog equipment (which, as mentioned, is illegal), keep the parts. They're valuable in themselves, and you never know if/when the tree-huggers here will push through legislation requiring smogs back to '66.
#6
I would take all of that ugly old (and actually ineffective) emission control crap OFF.
Frankly, the addition of a good electronic ignition would probably do twice as much for emissions as all of that old crap does anyway.
Frankly, the addition of a good electronic ignition would probably do twice as much for emissions as all of that old crap does anyway.
#7
Not true, Fordification. Federal emissions requirements started in '68, iirc, and CA requirements started in '66. Federal law prohibits tampering or removal of emissions equipment on any vehicle originally equipped, regardless of whether or not the state requires inspections on the vehicle. In CA, biannual smog checks are required for anything newer than '75, but it's still technically illegal to alter emissions on anything '75 and older.
#8
Electronic ignition works as well as properly-tuned points. Of course, electronic doesn't need adjusting. Then again, if the electronic dies, you have to call a tow-truck, while I have repaired point ignition with trash from the side of the road.
"You takes your choice, and pays your money".
Last edited by 2+2GT; 04-11-2010 at 12:21 PM.
#9
Yeh, here in Cali, you don't know when or if they will decide to do something to the pre-74 cars. I have been next to cop cars and even asked what I have in it. I have a big cam and 40 series Flowmasters so it really thumps. Knock on wood, I have never been pulled over for NOISE or emissions. Just KEEP all your emission stuff! Good luck!
#10
Yeh, here in Cali, you don't know when or if they will decide to do something to the pre-74 cars. I have been next to cop cars and even asked what I have in it. I have a big cam and 40 series Flowmasters so it really thumps. Knock on wood, I have never been pulled over for NOISE or emissions. Just KEEP all your emission stuff! Good luck!