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65 power steering to manual

Old 02-26-2011, 03:43 PM
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Who out their is running a manual trans without powersteering. Looking at taking mine out and wondering how much of a pain it is to drive without power. Ive have driven stangs without power but never with a manual. Whats ur input.

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Old 02-26-2011, 04:57 PM
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Mine doesn't have power steering, and I'll probably never install it. I've also driven a few other vehicles without power steering. The important thing to remember is this: those cars were DESIGNED without power steering. That means that the steering wheel ratios, the geometry of the steering components etc were all designed to work with out power assist. Most drivers of modern cars have tried to drive their car with the car off, or when the power steering goes out and have to fight to turn the wheel. They then assume that's what driving without power steering is like, but it is not. Those vehicles don't have the mechanical steering geometry to help them and are in fact FIGHTING the power steering system since its not on.

When driving a manual steering car it is effortless to drive down the street, I can turn my car's wheel with one finger. The onlyY time its any more difficult is when you are at a stop, then you have to use a little more effort, but you aren't straining yourself by any means.

If you really want to know what its like, go to a show or stop someone who has a car and see if they'll let you take it around the block to see what it feels like.
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Old 02-26-2011, 05:11 PM
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i can turn the steering wheel on my 65 with 17x8 tires up front with 2 fingers sitting still it was a power car
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Old 02-26-2011, 05:30 PM
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I drove my 4-speed 66 every day for 25 years with 4-turn GT manual steering.

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Old 02-26-2011, 05:46 PM
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pretty sure im going to do it.
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Old 02-26-2011, 05:50 PM
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I have manual steering and a 5 speed. I'm currently in the middle of taking out the mini-spool in the rear end, so I hope that this will help me steer much easier. However, if I had a choice, I would prefer power steering. It's not bad having manual steering, but if you have power steering, why wouldn't you want to keep it??? I would think anyone who would prefer manual steering over power steering is the type of person who would argue a 4 cylinder is better than an 8, but only because they have a 4 and don't have the 8 and are irritated that they don't so defend their dumb decision. Make sense? I'd stick with power. Parking is a bitch in manual.
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Old 02-26-2011, 06:08 PM
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Manual steering with a 5 speed here. Had power and the pump quit. So...with a 16:1 box, smaller than stock steering wheel (Momo), 215/60 x 15 tires and about 2.5 degrees positive caster, it's really not bad. Also have the tires pumped to 32 lbs. Going from almost 4 degrees to 2.5 degrees on the caster really helped.
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Old 02-26-2011, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gjz30075
Manual steering with a 5 speed here. Had power and the pump quit. So...with a 16:1 box, smaller than stock steering wheel (Momo), 215/60 x 15 tires and about 2.5 degrees positive caster, it's really not bad. Also have the tires pumped to 32 lbs. Going from almost 4 degrees to 2.5 degrees on the caster really helped.
I c this helps i have a aftermarket 14 in wheel.
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Old 02-26-2011, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FoMoJoe
I have manual steering and a 5 speed. I'm currently in the middle of taking out the mini-spool in the rear end, so I hope that this will help me steer much easier. However, if I had a choice, I would prefer power steering. It's not bad having manual steering, but if you have power steering, why wouldn't you want to keep it??? I would think anyone who would prefer manual steering over power steering is the type of person who would argue a 4 cylinder is better than an 8, but only because they have a 4 and don't have the 8 and are irritated that they don't so defend their dumb decision. Make sense? I'd stick with power. Parking is a bitch in manual.
I just want to do away with it, it rips the nuts out of the frame on the drop bracket, so i welded the bracket to the rail now its riped some of the spot welds off the rail. I dont know y its doing this could be from my car being slamed and me beating the heck out of it or idk. Also i cant stand anything leaking and it gives a drop off every so often or a line will loosen up.
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Old 02-26-2011, 07:07 PM
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I've got a four speed, the 4 turn steering box, the quick steer extended pitman arm and 215 60 15s. Parking is a real workout. The key is to keep the wheels rotating while turning the steering wheel, and that's not always possible. I avoid parallel parking when I can.
I wouldn't want a daily driver with this setup, but the increased road feel and steering response you get when moving makes it worthwhile on a fun car.
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