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10-30 is a little too thin and oil pressure a little low

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Old 05-28-2012, 01:28 AM
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I run 10-30 Valvoline vr1. I get about 30 psi idle and 70 above 2000 rpm never drops.

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Old 05-28-2012, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by musnicki
I use 5W-20/30, should I be using 10W or even 20W? 302 with Performer RPM heads/Cam.

This thread is a great read btw.
James, I would probably go to at least 10w-30, especially with the weather there in HI. Watch your oil pressure when you get off the highway and see what you get at a stop at idle. If you are atill in the 20's I would say its ok.. but then you do have the rpm top end.. Did you install roller lifters and rockers? That may be a consideration too. Before my build I would get 60psithem at start and on the hwy.. but nothing at idle once warm.
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:25 AM
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also the W in 10w-30 does not stand for weight....it stands for winter
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Old 05-29-2012, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeDemon
out of curiousity what pressure were you getting with the 10-30 cold/hot and also at 1000 rpm and 4000 rpm (or some low and high rpm point)?
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Your question is, somewhat, difficult to offer a definitive answer. It's all about bearing tolerances and the lack thereof. An accepted rule of thumb for oil pressure, is to have about 10lbs /1000 RPMs under speed. At idle 15-20 lb. would not be unacceptable. Above idle and upwards you should see a graduated gauge reach 25-40 Lbs. A cold engine will read higher for all of the obvious reasons. I run Castrol 10-40 in the mustang and the 20-50 in the Jag.
Yes, you can mask, to some extent, a "wearing" engine with an increase in a given oil's viscosity. But, as we all know, this is a band-aid and buys some time.
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:32 PM
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IMO the 5w and 10w oils are more about saving gas in order to meet mileage requirements for late model cars. 20W oil is by no means too thick, especially on an early engine.
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Old 05-29-2012, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kenash
Hi,
Your question is, somewhat, difficult to offer a definitive answer. It's all about bearing tolerances and the lack thereof. An accepted rule of thumb for oil pressure, is to have about 10lbs /1000 RPMs under speed. At idle 15-20 lb. would not be unacceptable. Above idle and upwards you should see a graduated gauge reach 25-40 Lbs. A cold engine will read higher for all of the obvious reasons. I run Castrol 10-40 in the mustang and the 20-50 in the Jag.
Yes, you can mask, to some extent, a "wearing" engine with an increase in a given oil's viscosity. But, as we all know, this is a band-aid and buys some time.
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how is my question difficult to answer? all the op has to do is report the measured oil pressure at a high and low RPM and also hot and cold.
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Old 05-29-2012, 10:03 PM
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I use 5-20 and at idle (900rpms) its just above 25 (bars, psi?) and at cruise, 5th gear, 70-80 (3k rpm) it's just below 50 bars.
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Old 05-30-2012, 07:54 AM
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I am in 20's at idle and I don't know what at high driving RPM as I have the orig gauge. I do see the original gauge go lower than normal with 10-30. Also, last summer I was using 20-50 and the engine was rebuilt 2k before I bought it and used 20-50. I hear that people who switch back to 10-30 from 20-50 do have lower oil pressure than normal with 10-30, can this be? OI do see lower pressure so I think I will move to 10-40 and see if I find any issues.
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:37 PM
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Without a real mechanical gage, who knows what the OPs pressure is or if there is a problem at all.
Knowing the bearing clearances will also help.
With those two pieces of data, we can maybe answer the questions.
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Based on your posting, ask a simple question and you'll get a million different answers.
My .02: this is really a personal choice - I've used multigrade, single grade, racing oil and the only real data I can share is that with the lower multigrade combo's, the pressure seems to be lower at hot idle.

I like Castrol GTX 20w50 personally in older technology engines especially in warm locations. I see your from NH so 10-30 or 10-40 may be OK. If you have flat tappets, and use modern oil, (SL and higher certification) you should use a zinc additive of some type to help lubricate the cam/lifter interface.
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