Granada vs Mustang spindles
03-22-2009, 02:19 AM
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03-22-2009, 01:00 PM
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I don't know if you are aware but Street or Track makes these brackets or will be making them soon I believe.
http://www.streetortrack.com/Street-...-pr-24140.html
03-22-2009, 08:52 PM
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Chocko answer
Excellent Question Gunnerdog, and needs to be Explained, Info Provided to the Consuming Public.
The GRANADA Brakes were Offtakes From Ford Mustang/Torino for the Down Sized Models in the Mid 70--Gas High, Need for Economy cars.
The Smaller Rotor Granda brakes are TOTALLY Different!!, No way around it.
You can Take a Granada Spindle, Alter, Butch it to fit up the Early BIGGER Mustang Brakes, Yes---WHY?
The Rotors, are Smaller on the Granada, The Calipers are Different, The Brackets are Different.
Hoses, Fittings, Hardware, Totally Different.
For Those thinking, Being Mislead, the GRANADA is in any way a UPGRADE has a Sad awaking. It is a Down Grade to True Mustang Brakes---Yes, All 65-73 are Bigger Brakes.
Dan
www.chockostangclassicmustang.com
The GRANADA Brakes were Offtakes From Ford Mustang/Torino for the Down Sized Models in the Mid 70--Gas High, Need for Economy cars.
The Smaller Rotor Granda brakes are TOTALLY Different!!, No way around it.
You can Take a Granada Spindle, Alter, Butch it to fit up the Early BIGGER Mustang Brakes, Yes---WHY?
The Rotors, are Smaller on the Granada, The Calipers are Different, The Brackets are Different.
Hoses, Fittings, Hardware, Totally Different.
For Those thinking, Being Mislead, the GRANADA is in any way a UPGRADE has a Sad awaking. It is a Down Grade to True Mustang Brakes---Yes, All 65-73 are Bigger Brakes.
Dan
www.chockostangclassicmustang.com
If anyone knows what he is talking about , is chockostang , i have bought parts from him in the past and the service is superb and the knowledge is top notch!! You Da Man!!
03-23-2009, 12:50 AM
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Excellent Question Gunnerdog, and needs to be Explained, Info Provided to the Consuming Public.
The GRANADA Brakes were Offtakes From Ford Mustang/Torino for the Down Sized Models in the Mid 70--Gas High, Need for Economy cars.
The Smaller Rotor Granda brakes are TOTALLY Different!!, No way around it.
You can Take a Granada Spindle, Alter, Butch it to fit up the Early BIGGER Mustang Brakes, Yes---WHY?
The Rotors, are Smaller on the Granada, The Calipers are Different, The Brackets are Different.
Hoses, Fittings, Hardware, Totally Different.
For Those thinking, Being Mislead, the GRANADA is in any way a UPGRADE has a Sad awaking. It is a Down Grade to True Mustang Brakes---Yes, All 65-73 are Bigger Brakes.
Dan
www.chockostangclassicmustang.com
The GRANADA Brakes were Offtakes From Ford Mustang/Torino for the Down Sized Models in the Mid 70--Gas High, Need for Economy cars.
The Smaller Rotor Granda brakes are TOTALLY Different!!, No way around it.
You can Take a Granada Spindle, Alter, Butch it to fit up the Early BIGGER Mustang Brakes, Yes---WHY?
The Rotors, are Smaller on the Granada, The Calipers are Different, The Brackets are Different.
Hoses, Fittings, Hardware, Totally Different.
For Those thinking, Being Mislead, the GRANADA is in any way a UPGRADE has a Sad awaking. It is a Down Grade to True Mustang Brakes---Yes, All 65-73 are Bigger Brakes.
Dan
www.chockostangclassicmustang.com
That aside Dan, you continue to exaggerate the difference in size (diameter) of Granada vs 65-73 Mustang rotors. Indeed, we have been through this before. The difference is 0.23". Rotor mass, caliper piston size, and the pad and rotor total friction surface area are also important factors in rotor performance. Fact is, the Granada rotor has greater mass and friction surface area. I offer both 65-67 and 68-73 Mustang spec disc brake systems as well as the Granada types. The difference in rotor size is not enough to crow about.
Back to the OP's topic. I don't endorse using late model calipers on Granada spindle (or 65-73 Mustang type) with OE type rotors. The SN95 and Cobra calipers are designed for use on a thicker rotor. The brake pads would not be properly retained if Granada or Mustang rotors are used and they could fall out. Also, the calipers piston would need to be over extended at the wear limits unless a large shim is used under the pad. If SN95 or Cobra rotors are used, the rotor disc and caliper will be located about 1.2" further outboard compared with OE disc and caliper and will create unfavorable suspension dynamics. This is because the rotor hat offset is small on the late model rotors. They are designed for use on an entirely different spindle.
I have addressed these issues in a newly designed SN 95 caliper bracket and rotor that will mount to the Granada spindle. The full 1.025" thickness 11" rotor will have its disc at the OE inboard position. These as well as purpose built calipers are scheduled for release this summer.