Valcore

If my car was stock, I would seriously dought that a stock v6 camaro could beat it...
I just simply don't see it happening, my friend has a v6 bird and when riding in it, it just dosn't have the kick.

NeoTokyo

72MachOne99GT I was talkin normal, I just talk like that. Internet lacks facial expressions.

btw, got a cleveland in that mach? My wife has a 71' M Code 4V cleveland. The engine is getting rebuilt right now. In 71 the had the M code that had 285hp and the Q code that had 280hp (Cobra Jet) though it was 5hp less it had a ton more torque, but I dont remember either torque specs and the one I wish we had would be the rare R code 330hp 4V Cleveland. Though her original build information online says its the 330hp option but doesnt mention the R code, eh I dunno, all I know is that the engine will be awesome when its done.

72MachOne99GT

It's got the Q Code, which in '72 was the more powerful of the two (cause it was the 4 barrel)
only 266 hp and 301 lb/ft tq

there were some R codes left over in '72 that made something in the 275 range, but like you said, lacked some torque

what color is yours? and is it an auto?

my dads is in alright shape, if it was gonna be a professional rebuild, it would take ALOT ALOT of work, but as it is, we just want it to run strong, (and it looks A++ from abuot 10 feet away)

up close its got a couple spots that arent perfect, but there is no surface rust (just a tad in the floor and we refabricated the trunk pan)

NeoTokyo

Its flamingo Grey with vermilion red interior. Its an Auto but the rear seat doesnt fold down.
The floor pans are completly shot in the car but the body is beautiful, the paint has no clear on it though.
Its a shell ready for The works, it was complete but I tore it down and we are starting the long process.
We wanted to put a TKO600 in it behind the cleveland and rebuild the baby C6 for later.

Welp I better be off, have fun with that car and dont sell her, they are becoming very popular.

72MachOne99GT

that's one of the reasons my dad wanted it so badly

his sister had a 71 or 72 when they were younger and she was gonna sell it after it'd been stolen and fixed up, but he didnt think it'd be a very good choice being 20 and going into the air force

so now he's just working on making this one a nice summer car for weekends and some drive in cruises and what not

good luck

Zoie_daGT

Exactly
For the most part, the camaros can take a stang except the Terminator. The 5.0s were also good at their time.

b_hollier

I have owned the 97 firebird, 99 camaro, and the 97 vette in the past. I can say that the mustang GT cannot compete with any of them. The Cobra that came out in 2003 can however out perform almost everything that GM has on the market. I have seen the 2004 Cobra run against the 2004 ZO6 and the Cobra did come out first. Could have been a bad driver in the vette, but a win is a win. The 2005 and up GT's are faster that the Z28's and run head to head with the SS. They are very close to the older C5 vette. Not much slower, a few mods and they are an even race. I am still wating to see what the new Shelby will do against the C6 ZO6. I have driven the new ZO6 and am very doubtful that the Shelby can out run it. As far as camaro and mustang competion goes, you need the newer Cobra to out run them.

07TungStang

we can try it out right now...i have the 2 enemies in the garage now a 2000 camaro 3.8 and a 2007 mustang 4.0....somebody can drive the maro while i drive the stang...

Dath

Crank horsepower is a tough way to determine whats faster. I have the 0-60 (first number) and 1/4 mile times (second number) for a few mustangs and camaros. Not a complete list, but they are all bone stock.

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1964 Ford Mustang (289ci V8 w/4spd) 7.5 15.7

1966 Ford Mustang (289ci V8 Auto) 10.9 17.9

1967 Ford Mustang (390ci V8 w/4spd) 7.4 15.6
1967 Chevrolet Camaro SS-350 8.0 15.4

1969 Ford Mustang Mach 1 5.7 13.9
1969 Ford Mustang Mach 1 428ci 5.7 14.3
1969 Chevrolet Camaro ZL-1 5.3 11.68

1970 Ford Mustang Boss 302 6.5 14.9

1971 Ford Mustang Boss 351 5.8 13.8
1971 Ford Mustang (351ci V8 w/4spd) 5.8 13.8

1972 Chevrolet Camaro Budget GT 10.5 17.6
1972 Chevrolet Camaro Luxury GT 9.8 17.2
1972 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 7.5 15.5

1973 Ford Mustang 351ci 8.9 16.3

1974 Ford Mustang II 4sp 14.2 18.8
1974 Ford Mustang II Auto 15.6 19.4
1974 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 8.1 15.4

1975 Ford Mustang II (302ci V8 w/3spd) 9.6 17.5
1975 Chevrolet Camaro 350 11.0 17.4
1975 Chevrolet Camaro RS 8.5 16.8

1977 Ford Mustang II 302ci 11.3 17.7

1980 Ford Mustang (255ci) 11.8 18.5
1980 Ford Mustang Cobra (225ci) 11.3 18.4

1981 Ford Mustang M81 McLaren (2.3L Turbo) 9.7 17.3

1983 Chevrolet Camaro 9.5 17.5
1983 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 H.O. 6.7 15.0

1984 Ford Mustang SVO 7.9 15.8
1984 Chevrolet Camaro Berlinetta 9.3 17.0

1985 Ford Mustang GT 6.4 14.9
1985 Chevrolet Camaro Berlinetta 10.0 17.0
1985 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z28 7.0 15.2

1987 Ford Mustang GT 6.4 14.4
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z 6.6 14.9
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z L98 6.8 15.3

1988 Ford Mustang GT 6.4 15.0
1988 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z 7.0 15.5

1989 Ford Mustang GT 5.0l Manual 6.2 14.8

1990 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 6.4 14.9
1990 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z 5.8 14.4
1990 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 6.5 15.0

1991 Ford Mustang GT 7.3 15.6

1992 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 6.2 14.8
1992 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 6.7 15.2

1993 Ford Mustang Cobra 5.9 14.5
1993 Ford Mustang GT (auto) 8.0 16.1
1993 Chevrolet Camaro V-6 9.0 16.6
1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.8 14.4

1994 Ford Mustang Cobra 5.4 14.0
1994 Ford Mustang GT 6.1 14.9
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Conv. 6.2 14.5

1995 Ford Mustang 3.8 9.9 17.3
1995 Ford Mustang Cobra R 5.2 13.8
1995 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1995 Chevrolet Camaro 3800 7.4 15.7

1996 Ford Mustang Cobra 5.4 14.0
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.1
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.3 13.8

1998 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 5.4 14.0
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.2 13.7
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.2 13.6

1999 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 5.4 13.9
1999 Ford Mustang Convertible V6 8.6 16.5
1999 Ford Mustang GT 5.5 14.1

2001 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.8 13.5
2001 Ford Mustang Bullitt GT 5.6 14.1
2001 Ford Mustang Roush Stage 3 4.3 12.9

2003 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9
2003 Ford Mustang Mach 1 (5 Speed) 4.7 13.2
2003 Ford Mustang Mach 1 (Auto) 5.6 13.88

2004 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9

2005 Ford Mustang GT V-6 6.9 15.3
2005 Ford Mustang GT 4.6L V8 5.1 13.5
2005 Ford Mustang GT Convertible 5.2 13.8

2007 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Convertible 4.5 12.9
2007 Ford Mustang Shelby GT-H 5.3 13.9

JD1969

Nice job bringing back a post that's near 2 years old. Why do newbs always do this[:@]