351w ?'s that are killing me!!!!!
#1
351w ?'s that are killing me!!!!!
i'm new to the 351's.....i know 302's like the back of my hand but i'm a virgin to the 351's. i just dropped in my motor the other day and stuff isn't lining up!!
questions:
1. i got a sfi steel bellhousing i don't know if it is mcleoud or lakewood? anyway the flywheel is 164 tooth and the bellhousing backing plate that came with my tko tranny i got from some guy on corral.net. the problem i'm running into is the starter from my 302 isn't mating up to the backing plate? i talked to some guy and he said my 302 starter will work with that bellhousing b/c it has 2 different bolt holes one for a 157 tooth flywheel and one for a 164 tooth. it looks like the starter matches up to that but it's wayyyy off from lining up to the backing plate? do i need the actual backing plate made for the sfi bellhousing?
2. i tried using my 302 power steering bracket on my new motor and it will not line up either? the part that slides onto the front of the water pump works just fine but when i go and try and move the power steering to line it up it's off? is this b/c of the different deck height between the 2 blocks? do i need to go to the junk yard and find a 351w motor with a serpentine belt setup and use that bracket? my setup is like this....i have the crank pulley, alt. pulley on the left, water pump in the middle and power steering on the right (looking from the front of the car).
3. this is an easy one is the firing order 1-5-4 or 1-3-7?
4. is there anything else besides the questions here i might run into?
questions:
1. i got a sfi steel bellhousing i don't know if it is mcleoud or lakewood? anyway the flywheel is 164 tooth and the bellhousing backing plate that came with my tko tranny i got from some guy on corral.net. the problem i'm running into is the starter from my 302 isn't mating up to the backing plate? i talked to some guy and he said my 302 starter will work with that bellhousing b/c it has 2 different bolt holes one for a 157 tooth flywheel and one for a 164 tooth. it looks like the starter matches up to that but it's wayyyy off from lining up to the backing plate? do i need the actual backing plate made for the sfi bellhousing?
2. i tried using my 302 power steering bracket on my new motor and it will not line up either? the part that slides onto the front of the water pump works just fine but when i go and try and move the power steering to line it up it's off? is this b/c of the different deck height between the 2 blocks? do i need to go to the junk yard and find a 351w motor with a serpentine belt setup and use that bracket? my setup is like this....i have the crank pulley, alt. pulley on the left, water pump in the middle and power steering on the right (looking from the front of the car).
3. this is an easy one is the firing order 1-5-4 or 1-3-7?
4. is there anything else besides the questions here i might run into?
#3
RE: 351w ?'s that are killing me!!!!!
I'm not sure about question 1 & 2. When I switched to a 351w, the engine was complete and I used everything from that engine such as the brackets and such.
Question #3......firing order depends on the cam. Is it an aftermarket cam because it could be either one of those orders.
If it's the stock cam I "think" it's the 1-5-4......order. You will know right away if you have the wrong order.
Question #3......firing order depends on the cam. Is it an aftermarket cam because it could be either one of those orders.
If it's the stock cam I "think" it's the 1-5-4......order. You will know right away if you have the wrong order.
#4
RE: 351w ?'s that are killing me!!!!!
3) the firing order for a 351W is the same as for a 5.0 HO engine, 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
2) yes, the deck height is what makes some of the accessory brackets not interchangable between the two engine so off to the junk yard you go
1) to be legal at the strip you need the sfi backing plate for that particular bellhousing to meet all the safety requirements as it also helps contain the pieces parts of an exploding clutch
Have fun!
2) yes, the deck height is what makes some of the accessory brackets not interchangable between the two engine so off to the junk yard you go
1) to be legal at the strip you need the sfi backing plate for that particular bellhousing to meet all the safety requirements as it also helps contain the pieces parts of an exploding clutch
Have fun!
#5
RE: 351w ?'s that are killing me!!!!!
The PS bracket wont work. There a few companies that sell this bracket that will make the power steering fit onto the 351w. They also have one for AC and PS. Either way you need one of these brackets.
Ric
Ric
#7
RE: 351w ?'s that are killing me!!!!!
sfi bell need org plate its got the holes taped for starter..you need 351w a/c bracket also some ealier like my 83 gt i had to get later p/s bracket.the off set wasnt right ..1-3-7 f.order if as that 351w cam in it ,,,
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