2.3l to 5.0l?
08-03-2007, 07:58 AM
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2.3l to 5.0l?
Ok, here's the plan. The car in question is a 1986 Panther Kallista with that years 2.3l NA Mustang I4. The car is fun to drive, very light weight, so is peppy with the 2.3, but i'd like to learn a bit about a 5.0 swap. I'm thinking i'd rather go with an '85 engine since it's carburated (correct me if i'm wrong). There seems to be much engine swapping info on here, but I can't find any in particular to my application. I'm sure i'll think of questions as I go, but for starters...
Do the 2.3 and 5.0 use the same tranny, motor mounts, and mount points? What about the rest of the drivetrain? What's the weight difference between the 2.3l and 5.0 engines?
Thanks
Do the 2.3 and 5.0 use the same tranny, motor mounts, and mount points? What about the rest of the drivetrain? What's the weight difference between the 2.3l and 5.0 engines?
Thanks
08-03-2007, 11:03 AM
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RE: 2.3l to 5.0l?
ORIGINAL: Panther_Driver
Ok, here's the plan. The car in question is a 1986 Panther Kallista with that years 2.3l NA Mustang I4. The car is fun to drive, very light weight, so is peppy with the 2.3, but i'd like to learn a bit about a 5.0 swap. I'm thinking i'd rather go with an '85 engine since it's carburated (correct me if i'm wrong). There seems to be much engine swapping info on here, but I can't find any in particular to my application. I'm sure i'll think of questions as I go, but for starters...
Do the 2.3 and 5.0 use the same tranny, motor mounts, and mount points? What about the rest of the drivetrain? What's the weight difference between the 2.3l and 5.0 engines?
Thanks
Ok, here's the plan. The car in question is a 1986 Panther Kallista with that years 2.3l NA Mustang I4. The car is fun to drive, very light weight, so is peppy with the 2.3, but i'd like to learn a bit about a 5.0 swap. I'm thinking i'd rather go with an '85 engine since it's carburated (correct me if i'm wrong). There seems to be much engine swapping info on here, but I can't find any in particular to my application. I'm sure i'll think of questions as I go, but for starters...
Do the 2.3 and 5.0 use the same tranny, motor mounts, and mount points? What about the rest of the drivetrain? What's the weight difference between the 2.3l and 5.0 engines?
Thanks
And I'm not completely sure, this is just the stuff I think you'll have to swap out... [Which is the whole drive-train]
08-03-2007, 11:27 AM
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RE: 2.3l to 5.0l?
I was half expecting that. I am considering buying an older Mustang and rebuilding the motor, etc. Am I right that the '85 is carburated? How large is that 5.0, physically in the engine bay? I'll have to find pics of the Panthers engine bay, but does it look like it would physically fit even?
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08-03-2007, 01:46 PM
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RE: 2.3l to 5.0l?
Yeah it looks a bit narrow, but there's a ton of room with the 2.3 in there. I think it would be pretty sweet with even a stock 5.0, she weighs just under 2,100 lbs! It's in Florida now and i'm in Maryland. I'll be taking some more detailed pics and measurements on my next vaca. Hopefully in a couple weeks.
Any idea how much the 5.0 engine weighs when compared to the 2.3? I've heard it's not significantly heavier considering double the pistons, but I don't want to totally screw up the handling dynamics. She's pretty well balanced now.
Any idea how much the 5.0 engine weighs when compared to the 2.3? I've heard it's not significantly heavier considering double the pistons, but I don't want to totally screw up the handling dynamics. She's pretty well balanced now.
08-03-2007, 03:56 PM
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RE: 2.3l to 5.0l?
ORIGINAL: Panther_Driver
I was half expecting that. I am considering buying an older Mustang and rebuilding the motor, etc. Am I right that the '85 is carburated? How large is that 5.0, physically in the engine bay? I'll have to find pics of the Panthers engine bay, but does it look like it would physically fit even?
[IMG]local://upfiles/76239/7C68AE571D8649089EBD45833C353C9D.jpg[/IMG]
I was half expecting that. I am considering buying an older Mustang and rebuilding the motor, etc. Am I right that the '85 is carburated? How large is that 5.0, physically in the engine bay? I'll have to find pics of the Panthers engine bay, but does it look like it would physically fit even?
[IMG]local://upfiles/76239/7C68AE571D8649089EBD45833C353C9D.jpg[/IMG]
08-03-2007, 07:42 PM
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RE: 2.3l to 5.0l?
ORIGINAL: Checkk
I think GT's weigh about 3300 and LX's weigh about 2800. If I'm right, that would probably mean the engine would be about 300 pounds heavier, give or take.
I think GT's weigh about 3300 and LX's weigh about 2800. If I'm right, that would probably mean the engine would be about 300 pounds heavier, give or take.
The point is, the 5.0L Windsor is a BIG engine. It's pretty heavy, and I'm betting gunna weigh a lot more than the I4 2.3L you got in that car. The steering dynamics is gunna change, and probably be either really bad, or really good. It can go either way, really.