(Updated) Does this rear wheel power sound accurate?
#11
RE: Does this rear wheel power sound accurate?
ORIGINAL: Lord Ashram
*laugh* JD, you sound like my mechanic He always says "Dont worry about the numbers, worry about how the car goes," but I always chalked that up to his not getting a ton of power out of the car
*laugh* JD, you sound like my mechanic He always says "Dont worry about the numbers, worry about how the car goes," but I always chalked that up to his not getting a ton of power out of the car
#12
RE: Does this rear wheel power sound accurate?
Okay, with this additional data I'd agree your motor is way down from its potential. The obvious culprit is the compression ratio and the boost level. At 8.7:1, your engine was made for A LOT of boost, and it won't produce good #s without it. Assuming this icorpresson ratio is correct, if it were me I'd get a pulley that gives me about 15 lbs of boost.
You should not be comparing this to other car owners who put a blower on an essentially stock engine with a stock compression ratio (e.g., 355 RWHP at 8 lbs). You engine will not produce as much power, at any level of boost, as a stock 4.6 with a blower put on it. But a stock engine can only take about 8 lbs before detonation occurs, and with your lower ratio you can take about twice that.
You might not want to jump all the way to 15 lbs of boost. If you don';t have a compareable motor and tune built prior to this as a guide, you don't know what problems you can run into at high boost, so it is best to that it a step at a time (as I did with the Procharger on the vette), retuning it each time and seeing what problems you run into (might need even bigger juel injectors along the way, maybe green tops at really high boost). I bought a set of seven pulleys in 1/8th inch increments from Procharger and just tried every smaller sizes 'til I was happy, found along the way I needed bigger injectors, and higher capacity fuel pump, slightly changes here and there.
Good luck.
You should not be comparing this to other car owners who put a blower on an essentially stock engine with a stock compression ratio (e.g., 355 RWHP at 8 lbs). You engine will not produce as much power, at any level of boost, as a stock 4.6 with a blower put on it. But a stock engine can only take about 8 lbs before detonation occurs, and with your lower ratio you can take about twice that.
You might not want to jump all the way to 15 lbs of boost. If you don';t have a compareable motor and tune built prior to this as a guide, you don't know what problems you can run into at high boost, so it is best to that it a step at a time (as I did with the Procharger on the vette), retuning it each time and seeing what problems you run into (might need even bigger juel injectors along the way, maybe green tops at really high boost). I bought a set of seven pulleys in 1/8th inch increments from Procharger and just tried every smaller sizes 'til I was happy, found along the way I needed bigger injectors, and higher capacity fuel pump, slightly changes here and there.
Good luck.
#13
RE: Does this rear wheel power sound accurate?
Hey guys!
The injectors are 42 at the moment... as for the cam and manifold, that is interesting... I am afraid that I might need to do more with the fuel (beyond the 255 pump and injectors I have now) before I can get much more power out of it... does that sound right? The car is a manual... it is a lot of fun to be able to bang through gears...
I'm still trying to get the dyno sheet online but am having troubles with something... not sure what tho, I'll try to get it sorted out.
The injectors are 42 at the moment... as for the cam and manifold, that is interesting... I am afraid that I might need to do more with the fuel (beyond the 255 pump and injectors I have now) before I can get much more power out of it... does that sound right? The car is a manual... it is a lot of fun to be able to bang through gears...
I'm still trying to get the dyno sheet online but am having troubles with something... not sure what tho, I'll try to get it sorted out.
#14
RE: Does this rear wheel power sound accurate?
ORIGINAL: Lord Ashram
Hey guys!
The injectors are 42 at the moment... as for the cam and manifold, that is interesting... I am afraid that I might need to do more with the fuel (beyond the 255 pump and injectors I have now) before I can get much more power out of it... does that sound right? The car is a manual... it is a lot of fun to be able to bang through gears...
I'm still trying to get the dyno sheet online but am having troubles with something... not sure what tho, I'll try to get it sorted out.
Hey guys!
The injectors are 42 at the moment... as for the cam and manifold, that is interesting... I am afraid that I might need to do more with the fuel (beyond the 255 pump and injectors I have now) before I can get much more power out of it... does that sound right? The car is a manual... it is a lot of fun to be able to bang through gears...
I'm still trying to get the dyno sheet online but am having troubles with something... not sure what tho, I'll try to get it sorted out.
#15
RE: Does this rear wheel power sound accurate?
Okay here is the updated info, with everything I could put together...
Rebuilt 4.6 (8.75-1 compression) with forged manley rods, pistons, cobra crank, PI heads
rebuilt t-45 tranny
Vortech S-Trim Supercharger w/12 psi pulley
SCT chip
3.73 Gears
Centerforce Clutch Kit
Steed TriAx Shifter
75mm FMS Throttle Body
255 Intank Pump
Mass Air Meter
42lb injectors
alumn. drive shaft
Baer Track Claw brake system
Steeda Suspension Kit
Kenny Brown Subframe Connectors
17 x 9.5 Front, 17 x 11 Rear American Racing Wheels, w/ Sumitomo 315s out back.
Bassani X-Pipe
Flowmaster Mufflers
Clearly it is low on power Is it the cam? The manifold?
Rebuilt 4.6 (8.75-1 compression) with forged manley rods, pistons, cobra crank, PI heads
rebuilt t-45 tranny
Vortech S-Trim Supercharger w/12 psi pulley
SCT chip
3.73 Gears
Centerforce Clutch Kit
Steed TriAx Shifter
75mm FMS Throttle Body
255 Intank Pump
Mass Air Meter
42lb injectors
alumn. drive shaft
Baer Track Claw brake system
Steeda Suspension Kit
Kenny Brown Subframe Connectors
17 x 9.5 Front, 17 x 11 Rear American Racing Wheels, w/ Sumitomo 315s out back.
Bassani X-Pipe
Flowmaster Mufflers
Clearly it is low on power Is it the cam? The manifold?
#16
RE: Does this rear wheel power sound accurate?
Maybe you should try finishing off all the intake and exhaust stuff. I see a 75mm tb, but no plenum to go with it. No longtube headers either. Are they weld in mufflers or a whole cat-back. If they are weld-ins, get a whole catback that'll be 2.5" all the way.
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