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Old 04-12-2006, 10:14 AM
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I came across this article when I was reading about superchargers. It says that the Mustang can't handle over 425 hp. I was just wondering what your thoughts were on this.......

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Anyone modifying an '05 GT for more performance should be aware of the engine's limits. After all, it's not Ford's responsibility to provide an engine for racing, so consequently, the three-valve 4.6 was designed for 300 hp, plus a stress safety margin. Steeda says the engine will live with 425 hp as long as timing and fuel is managed to prevent detonation. Anything more than 425 hp and "You're just waiting to buy a new engine," says Dario Orlando.

The weak links are the piston ring lands and powdered rods. For emissions, the '05 has new pistons with ring lands very close to the top of the piston. "One of the ways to control emissions is to reduce the unscavenged area around the piston," Orlando explains. "If you move the ring land up as high as possible, you have less unburnt fuel. So Ford moved the ring land up as high as they could while maintaining minimum strength. But the whole purpose of it is alien to performance because they break easily."

The powdered rods--which have been used in all modular engines except the supercharged four-valve 4.6 in '03-'04 Cobras--also have their limit. "A powdered rod is simply powdered metal compressed at extremely high pressures where it literally bonds together to make a rod," Orlando says. "And on top of that, the rod cap itself is broken off. So you take off one of the caps and it's literally jagged-edged. It's inexpensive to produce, yet it provides more than adequate strength for a stock engine. But under a performance scenario, you're really stress limited."
The link to the full article is below.

http://www.mustangmonthly.com/featur...as/index1.html

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Old 04-13-2006, 12:46 AM
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So does anyone have opinions on this article......agree/disagree? I have read many people going above 425 hp on the mustangs and in fact Cervini offers a 500hp version. Is it something to be concerned with?
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Old 04-13-2006, 12:48 AM
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There are too many variables to say that 425rwhp is the magic number that your engine will break at. My car has been running at around 460rwhp for about a year now.
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Old 04-18-2006, 02:28 AM
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i have 430rwhp no problem so far
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Old 04-18-2006, 03:03 AM
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I think for me anyway that I wouldn't go above the 420hp they set as a "safe" area. I've got 6 years to pay on this car and I can't afford to have it blow an engine at say 3 years into it. I use it as a daily driver also. If I was rich then hell yeah I'd push it lol
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Search the forum...lots of posts on this topic.
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Old 04-18-2006, 10:01 AM
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Cervini's 500hp car has forged internals I believe, much like the Saleen Extreme does. But the general consensus is if you want more than 450hp you should plan on beefing up the bottom end. Otherwise the "waiting to buy a new engine" is a serious possibility []
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Cervini's doesn't put a forged rotating assembly in, I think if they did that would be highlighted on their website. They also say they are making 535hp at the flywheel not the rearwheels so more like 450rwhp it just depends on the fuzzy math that they are doing.
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