I wimped out on racing a vette.
05-23-2006, 06:00 PM
#11
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RE: I wimped out on racing a vette.
Racing at speed... We are not only handicapped by lower displacement and HP, but we are a refrigerator going down the road compared to a Vette. Aerodynamics are not the Mustangs forte.
05-23-2006, 06:50 PM
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RE: I wimped out on racing a vette.
We are heavier and challenged by 100hp. ON the street in real life it would be close if you are a good driver. But they are quick.
New vettes are fast but I drove two since they came out and I wasent blown away. I drove a neighbors a year or so ago. Then I was looking at them when I got the mustang last month and drove one at a dealer. In truth, the mustang was more fun. Made more right noises and just felt right. In the vette, I couldent stop thinking, for this money the interior should be nicer, etc.
And yes, the vette was faster than the mustang, but driving them both back to back it wasent a world of difference, and I know the mustang can be a vette killer with a SC and some other work.
New vettes are fast but I drove two since they came out and I wasent blown away. I drove a neighbors a year or so ago. Then I was looking at them when I got the mustang last month and drove one at a dealer. In truth, the mustang was more fun. Made more right noises and just felt right. In the vette, I couldent stop thinking, for this money the interior should be nicer, etc.
And yes, the vette was faster than the mustang, but driving them both back to back it wasent a world of difference, and I know the mustang can be a vette killer with a SC and some other work.
05-23-2006, 08:23 PM
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RE: I wimped out on racing a vette.
F*** it, there are a lot of fast Vettes out there but you can give him a good run for his money. From time to time I get some attitude from some car on the road, like a Porsche or a Corvette or something, and I'm able to take him because he doesn't want to push his expensive car too hard so he tries to run me in high gear.
We saw a phenomenon which we suspect was attributed to this effect (which I call the "pu**y-a** loser bi*ch" effect) at the track one night, causing a Gallardo to run in the mid 14s -low 15s. It was pretty sad.
Not that you should ever sweat losing to someone in a more expensive car. Not that you should ever sweat losing in general. It's not like a loss will bring dishonor upon the heads of your offspring or anything. There are plenty of good reasons not to run a race, safety being the primary reason, not feeling like racing being perfectly acceptable, but never for fear of losing. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
We saw a phenomenon which we suspect was attributed to this effect (which I call the "pu**y-a** loser bi*ch" effect) at the track one night, causing a Gallardo to run in the mid 14s -low 15s. It was pretty sad.
Not that you should ever sweat losing to someone in a more expensive car. Not that you should ever sweat losing in general. It's not like a loss will bring dishonor upon the heads of your offspring or anything. There are plenty of good reasons not to run a race, safety being the primary reason, not feeling like racing being perfectly acceptable, but never for fear of losing. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
05-23-2006, 08:23 PM
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RE: I wimped out on racing a vette.
ORIGINAL: classj
We are heavier and challenged by 100hp. ON the street in real life it would be close if you are a good driver. But they are quick.
New vettes are fast but I drove two since they came out and I wasent blown away. I drove a neighbors a year or so ago. Then I was looking at them when I got the mustang last month and drove one at a dealer. In truth, the mustang was more fun. Made more right noises and just felt right. In the vette, I couldent stop thinking, for this money the interior should be nicer, etc.
And yes, the vette was faster than the mustang, but driving them both back to back it wasent a world of difference, and I know the mustang can be a vette killer with a SC and some other work.
We are heavier and challenged by 100hp. ON the street in real life it would be close if you are a good driver. But they are quick.
New vettes are fast but I drove two since they came out and I wasent blown away. I drove a neighbors a year or so ago. Then I was looking at them when I got the mustang last month and drove one at a dealer. In truth, the mustang was more fun. Made more right noises and just felt right. In the vette, I couldent stop thinking, for this money the interior should be nicer, etc.
And yes, the vette was faster than the mustang, but driving them both back to back it wasent a world of difference, and I know the mustang can be a vette killer with a SC and some other work.
Who have you been racing? Most guys like myself don't bother racing mustangs. Whats the point? If its stock, its an worthless kill. The problem is, on the street you never know whos modded. So people assume your stock. You my have a Vette killer inside but on the outside it looks like a non challenge. So guys in Vettes and Porsches say why waste the gas.
P.S I would abuse you in any gear.
Once gain we are comparing Modded vehicles to stock. It never has nor will it ever make sense to me.
05-23-2006, 08:38 PM
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RE: I wimped out on racing a vette.
ORIGINAL: MrRogers
"I'm able to take him because he doesn't want to push his expensive car too hard so he tries to run me in high gear"
Who have you been racing? Most guys like myself don't bother racing mustangs. Whats the point? If its stock, its an worthless kill. The problem is, on the street you never know whos modded. So people assume your stock. You my have a Vette killer inside but on the outside it looks like a non challenge. So guys in Vettes and Porsches say why waste the gas.
P.S I would abuse you in any gear.
Once gain we are comparing Modded vehicles to stock. It never has nor will it ever make sense to me.
ORIGINAL: classj
We are heavier and challenged by 100hp. ON the street in real life it would be close if you are a good driver. But they are quick.
New vettes are fast but I drove two since they came out and I wasent blown away. I drove a neighbors a year or so ago. Then I was looking at them when I got the mustang last month and drove one at a dealer. In truth, the mustang was more fun. Made more right noises and just felt right. In the vette, I couldent stop thinking, for this money the interior should be nicer, etc.
And yes, the vette was faster than the mustang, but driving them both back to back it wasent a world of difference, and I know the mustang can be a vette killer with a SC and some other work.
We are heavier and challenged by 100hp. ON the street in real life it would be close if you are a good driver. But they are quick.
New vettes are fast but I drove two since they came out and I wasent blown away. I drove a neighbors a year or so ago. Then I was looking at them when I got the mustang last month and drove one at a dealer. In truth, the mustang was more fun. Made more right noises and just felt right. In the vette, I couldent stop thinking, for this money the interior should be nicer, etc.
And yes, the vette was faster than the mustang, but driving them both back to back it wasent a world of difference, and I know the mustang can be a vette killer with a SC and some other work.
Who have you been racing? Most guys like myself don't bother racing mustangs. Whats the point? If its stock, its an worthless kill. The problem is, on the street you never know whos modded. So people assume your stock. You my have a Vette killer inside but on the outside it looks like a non challenge. So guys in Vettes and Porsches say why waste the gas.
P.S I would abuse you in any gear.
Once gain we are comparing Modded vehicles to stock. It never has nor will it ever make sense to me.
i enjoy running faster/more expensive cars all the time because i have none of that fear of losing. if i lose, wow i just proved the obvious. if we tie, it a fun rush and i get complements on keeping up. if i win, which happens a surprising amount of the time it seems, its a total adrenaline rush and morale booster. esp considering that the majority of times i just go out for a drive looking to run with people is when im bored or depressed and trying to get other **** off my mind, its a load of fun to feel like im legitimately competing with a car that *should* kill me. this mainly goes for SS/vette/cobra/ws6/911/etc, of which i don't nec have the highest winning percentage around, but i hold my own quite well. i know my car very well, and even 100hp won't always or even quite often make up for not knowing your car against me (in general, not directed at you mr rogers, lol).
05-23-2006, 08:46 PM
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RE: I wimped out on racing a vette.
ORIGINAL: Sleeper05
i enjoy running faster/more expensive cars all the time because i have none of that fear of losing. if i lose, wow i just proved the obvious. if we tie, it a fun rush and i get complements on keeping up. if i win, which happens a surprising amount of the time it seems, its a total adrenaline rush and morale booster. esp considering that the majority of times i just go out for a drive looking to run with people is when im bored or depressed and trying to get other **** off my mind, its a load of fun to feel like im legitimately competing with a car that *should* kill me. this mainly goes for SS/vette/cobra/ws6/911/etc, of which i don't nec have the highest winning percentage around, but i hold my own quite well. i know my car very well, and even 100hp won't always or even quite often make up for not knowing your car against me (in general, not directed at you mr rogers, lol).
ORIGINAL: MrRogers
"I'm able to take him because he doesn't want to push his expensive car too hard so he tries to run me in high gear"
Who have you been racing? Most guys like myself don't bother racing mustangs. Whats the point? If its stock, its an worthless kill. The problem is, on the street you never know whos modded. So people assume your stock. You my have a Vette killer inside but on the outside it looks like a non challenge. So guys in Vettes and Porsches say why waste the gas.
P.S I would abuse you in any gear.
Once gain we are comparing Modded vehicles to stock. It never has nor will it ever make sense to me.
ORIGINAL: classj
We are heavier and challenged by 100hp. ON the street in real life it would be close if you are a good driver. But they are quick.
New vettes are fast but I drove two since they came out and I wasent blown away. I drove a neighbors a year or so ago. Then I was looking at them when I got the mustang last month and drove one at a dealer. In truth, the mustang was more fun. Made more right noises and just felt right. In the vette, I couldent stop thinking, for this money the interior should be nicer, etc.
And yes, the vette was faster than the mustang, but driving them both back to back it wasent a world of difference, and I know the mustang can be a vette killer with a SC and some other work.
We are heavier and challenged by 100hp. ON the street in real life it would be close if you are a good driver. But they are quick.
New vettes are fast but I drove two since they came out and I wasent blown away. I drove a neighbors a year or so ago. Then I was looking at them when I got the mustang last month and drove one at a dealer. In truth, the mustang was more fun. Made more right noises and just felt right. In the vette, I couldent stop thinking, for this money the interior should be nicer, etc.
And yes, the vette was faster than the mustang, but driving them both back to back it wasent a world of difference, and I know the mustang can be a vette killer with a SC and some other work.
Who have you been racing? Most guys like myself don't bother racing mustangs. Whats the point? If its stock, its an worthless kill. The problem is, on the street you never know whos modded. So people assume your stock. You my have a Vette killer inside but on the outside it looks like a non challenge. So guys in Vettes and Porsches say why waste the gas.
P.S I would abuse you in any gear.
Once gain we are comparing Modded vehicles to stock. It never has nor will it ever make sense to me.
i enjoy running faster/more expensive cars all the time because i have none of that fear of losing. if i lose, wow i just proved the obvious. if we tie, it a fun rush and i get complements on keeping up. if i win, which happens a surprising amount of the time it seems, its a total adrenaline rush and morale booster. esp considering that the majority of times i just go out for a drive looking to run with people is when im bored or depressed and trying to get other **** off my mind, its a load of fun to feel like im legitimately competing with a car that *should* kill me. this mainly goes for SS/vette/cobra/ws6/911/etc, of which i don't nec have the highest winning percentage around, but i hold my own quite well. i know my car very well, and even 100hp won't always or even quite often make up for not knowing your car against me (in general, not directed at you mr rogers, lol).
05-24-2006, 02:54 AM
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RE: I wimped out on racing a vette.
ORIGINAL: Sleeper05
please search old street/strip threads for details. the consensus is that is never happened...so i must have imagined it
please search old street/strip threads for details. the consensus is that is never happened...so i must have imagined it
05-24-2006, 02:58 AM
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RE: I wimped out on racing a vette.
ORIGINAL: MrRogers
You beat a couple of C5's may be possible though I doubt it but beat a C5 Z even with 360+rwhp won't help you. The 405hp LS6 is underated like the new one.
ORIGINAL: Sleeper05
please search old street/strip threads for details. the consensus is that is never happened...so i must have imagined it
please search old street/strip threads for details. the consensus is that is never happened...so i must have imagined it
05-24-2006, 03:23 AM
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RE: I wimped out on racing a vette.
ORIGINAL: Sleeper05
ill put money on killing a stock c5-non-Z. pm me if you want me to go into detail about particular races cuz it clutters the forums
ORIGINAL: MrRogers
You beat a couple of C5's may be possible though I doubt it but beat a C5 Z even with 360+rwhp won't help you. The 405hp LS6 is underated like the new one.
ORIGINAL: Sleeper05
please search old street/strip threads for details. the consensus is that is never happened...so i must have imagined it
please search old street/strip threads for details. the consensus is that is never happened...so i must have imagined it
Did you or did you not say this?