Maybe backpressure isn't so bad
#21
RE: Maybe backpressure isn't so bad
Well, regardless of what the dyno might say, or however many people avoid where the torque curve lies, there is no doubt that my car has suffered a power loss. I'll be re-routing the new tips tomorrow and will report any changes after that.
#22
RE: Maybe backpressure isn't so bad
I suggest some of you read this post here. I posted it in the 4.6 section and still keep it handy every time the phrase backpressure gets mis-used.
There's a difference between backpressure and exhuast velocity.
Read up, you might learn something. I did https://mustangforums.com/m_1789889/tm.htm
There's a difference between backpressure and exhuast velocity.
Read up, you might learn something. I did https://mustangforums.com/m_1789889/tm.htm
#23
RE: Maybe backpressure isn't so bad
What's confusing here is that it makes sense to use large pipes and flow through mufflers to "reduce backpressure", but what you are actually doing is "reducing exhaust velocity", which is where the "power loss" perception comes from. A well tuned exhaust system minimizes backpressure but maximizes exhaust velocity, which almost sounds contradictory when in the same breath, we are saying smaller diameter pipes are better!
#24
RE: Maybe backpressure isn't so bad
That's craziness. Great post! I finished my exhaust yesterday and the addition of a couple feet of pipe and some tips not only made the car sound wicked awesome and a lot more refined, but I do notice a increase in power now that the exhaust is complete. Whether that be from velocity or backpressure doesn't matter a whole lot to me, it's the fact that one can notice a difference in power from what seems to be such a small difference.
#25
RE: Maybe backpressure isn't so bad
ORIGINAL: swensicle
I was more referring to torque and not hp. I'm also not referring to peak numbers, but the curve. My butt dyno tells me that I've lost some low-end grunt underneath 3k's. Do you still rebutt?
Also, I do believe that your compression braking is due more in part from actual motor compression then from exhaust back pressure.
I'm not trying to be an A$$ either......just in case it sounded like it.
P.S. - I also love the way your car sounds. I listened to your video a while back, and it inspired me to go this route.
I was more referring to torque and not hp. I'm also not referring to peak numbers, but the curve. My butt dyno tells me that I've lost some low-end grunt underneath 3k's. Do you still rebutt?
Also, I do believe that your compression braking is due more in part from actual motor compression then from exhaust back pressure.
I'm not trying to be an A$$ either......just in case it sounded like it.
P.S. - I also love the way your car sounds. I listened to your video a while back, and it inspired me to go this route.
#26
RE: Maybe backpressure isn't so bad
+1
Maximizing flow in a system goes along with what I said about sonic nodes causing backpressure. Any system that is impedence matched will not have these sonic nodes of backpressure; i.e. in a resonant condition will satisfy maximum transfer of fluid thus in this case maximizing exhaust flow and exhaust velocity.
Same thing happens when you have an 8 ohm receiver and match 8 ohm speakers to it; maximum current flows thus you get max power transfer to the speaker. Same as having your standing wave ratio on a transmitter at 1.00 as well! With the SWR at 1.00 there is no reflected power when you transmit. Reflected power can be thought of in the same sense as these sonic nodes of backpressure--aka a sonic wave reflected backwards such that it hinders the flow! Now that is exactly how you get "backpressure" by installing pipes that are too big or removing components that throws the system out of resonance. Think of it as reflected power!
Fluid flow and electrical current can be understood in the same terms!
Good ole physics!
Mike
Maximizing flow in a system goes along with what I said about sonic nodes causing backpressure. Any system that is impedence matched will not have these sonic nodes of backpressure; i.e. in a resonant condition will satisfy maximum transfer of fluid thus in this case maximizing exhaust flow and exhaust velocity.
Same thing happens when you have an 8 ohm receiver and match 8 ohm speakers to it; maximum current flows thus you get max power transfer to the speaker. Same as having your standing wave ratio on a transmitter at 1.00 as well! With the SWR at 1.00 there is no reflected power when you transmit. Reflected power can be thought of in the same sense as these sonic nodes of backpressure--aka a sonic wave reflected backwards such that it hinders the flow! Now that is exactly how you get "backpressure" by installing pipes that are too big or removing components that throws the system out of resonance. Think of it as reflected power!
Fluid flow and electrical current can be understood in the same terms!
Good ole physics!
Mike
#28
RE: Maybe backpressure isn't so bad
Since I installed the SLP loudmouths, I've haven't noticed much power difference, but she accelerates in 5th better and my gas mileage has improved.
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