johnnyv8

they still trapt high speed of like 106 and ive "read" thell do low 13's like 13.3. there no joke...but a modd Gt can take of that and a gt500...game over

Gone2

Please list everything you removed. Spare tire, jack....

Arrow

There's a guy at my work who has one of those Daytona Chargers. Trust me, it ain't nothin'. It's an okay car, I guess, but I've killed the guy at least half a dozen times so far. The owner's one of those over-pumped ego types who thinks he's God's gift. Every time we match up on the main road out here, he acts all superior, like he's a pro racer and I'm some wannabe ricer. After my car eats his, he gets really pissed, like I insulted him. You can almost hear him yelling "Just who do you think you are!" Ha! Cracks me up every time. Maybe next time I'll roll down the window and ask for some mustard. lol

Vic gtcs

I could see the charger, and gto getting beat by a mustang. I've done it myself! What gm and dodge owners don't realize is power to weight ratio. sure there running much more horses, but they are hauling 4000 lbs. For every extra hundred pounds they are losing about 10 or 20 horses

Rock36

You are right in principle, but I think a lot of people over estimatetheextra weight of those cars. I want to break down the numbers for everyone.

S197 Mustang GT
Power: 300 bhp
Weight: 3560 lbs
Power to weight ratio: 11.86lbs/hp

LS2 GTO
Power: 400 bhp
Weight 3725 lbs
Power to weight ratio: 9.31 lbs/hp

Charger SRT-8
Power: 425 bhp
Weight: 4160 lbs
Power to wieght ratio: 9.78 lbs/hp

Charger R/T
Power: 340 hp
Weight: 4031 lbs
Power to wieght ratio: 11.86 lbs/hp

The numbers will show you that while all these cars are heavier, they have all the power they need to make up for that weight and then some. Hence LS2 GTOs and SRT-8s are low 13s stock, and the Mustang GT is mid 13s stock.

Power to weight is not everything of course. Take for instance the Charger R/T. That car has an identical power to weight ratio as the Mustang GT, but the Mustang GT is clearly faster. The reason for that is mostly because the Charger R/T isn't geared as well as the Mustang GT (the R/T only has a 2.82:1 final drive), and only comes with a slushbox auto tranny. Swapping out just the rear gears on a Charger R/T would go a long way to make it compete directly with a Mustang GT in acceleration.

Again, despite the extra weight ofthe LS2 GTO, ithas a far better power-to-weight than the Mustang GT. Here is another way of looking at it, the GTO weighs ONLY 4.6% more than the Mustang GT, but makes 33% more power. However, it is my belief thatthe reason many GTOs fail to beat Mustangs is because of the stock tires. GTOs come witheither a 245/45-17 or a 235/40-18 from the factory. If you thought a 235/55-17 was narrow as hell on a 320ft-lbs Mustang GT, imagine a 235 or 245 tire on 400 ft-lbs! Thus, traction is more ofa factor for the GTO than the Mustang which is why I think it isn't uncommon for Mustangs to beat GTOs. Nailing the launch with a GTO is much harder.

Similar factors occur with the SRT-8 which weighs 17% more than the Mustang GT, but makes 41% more power.

Finally if I am not mistaken, the Daytona Charger is just a Charger R/T with a paint job and some kind of engine tweak that gives it an extra 10hp or something. So I don't think there is anything really significant about the Charger Daytonas.

Vic gtcs

I have a friend with a GTO its an earlier year so he doesn't have the newer motor. What do you guys think I would have to do to be able to beat him?

And what do you take out of the trunk for a weight reduction??

undefeated

Yeah, those tunes really bring the car to life. When I got mine, It was amazing how much room there was to improve. Added the 4.10's on top of it, and It feels crazy. I can't wait for the big mods this summer.