long tube headers vs. shorty headers
02-26-2008, 02:35 PM
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RE: long tube headers vs. shorty headers
25 is on the high side unless you are FI....the 25 would include x pipe probably
for a n/a car you should pick up 10-15 and a good amount of torq, i know i noticed the torq with mine
for a n/a car you should pick up 10-15 and a good amount of torq, i know i noticed the torq with mine
02-26-2008, 05:57 PM
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RE: long tube headers vs. shorty headers
Not just the kooks. You can't run any l/t's with a turbo...
For the millionth time, YOU HAVE SHORTIES ON YOUR CAR FROM THE FACTORY. The only real 'upgrade' from stock is L/T's - otherwise your stock manifolds are more than good enough.
For the millionth time, YOU HAVE SHORTIES ON YOUR CAR FROM THE FACTORY. The only real 'upgrade' from stock is L/T's - otherwise your stock manifolds are more than good enough.
02-26-2008, 06:41 PM
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RE: long tube headers vs. shorty headers
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Not just the kooks. You can't run any l/t's with a turbo...
For the millionth time, YOU HAVE SHORTIES ON YOUR CAR FROM THE FACTORY. The only real 'upgrade' from stock is L/T's - otherwise your stock manifolds are more than good enough.
Not just the kooks. You can't run any l/t's with a turbo...
For the millionth time, YOU HAVE SHORTIES ON YOUR CAR FROM THE FACTORY. The only real 'upgrade' from stock is L/T's - otherwise your stock manifolds are more than good enough.
02-26-2008, 07:29 PM
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RE: long tube headers vs. shorty headers
You are right, you will losesome clearance (1" to 1.5") with the SLPs, Iam notlowering so its not an issue, but it is something to take into account. I got a really good deal on my LT headers/X pipe w/cats from a website, install was $450 for all of it, so about $1200 total.
Dyno proven #s , RWHP/RWTQ was +11/+13 not sure about the 25-35 hp people claim, maybe at the crank you gain that much but to the ground I only saw a solid 10-15 hp jump, thats 1 3/4" primaries on a naturally aspirated engine, I plan on getting a blower soon which is when the real benefit of bigger primaries will kick in, at least thats what I hope!!! lol
Here is a pic of the LTs and how they hang.
[IMG]local://upfiles/30381/C4079ED8EAEE427CA80F9043250620C2.jpg[/IMG]
Dyno proven #s , RWHP/RWTQ was +11/+13 not sure about the 25-35 hp people claim, maybe at the crank you gain that much but to the ground I only saw a solid 10-15 hp jump, thats 1 3/4" primaries on a naturally aspirated engine, I plan on getting a blower soon which is when the real benefit of bigger primaries will kick in, at least thats what I hope!!! lol
Here is a pic of the LTs and how they hang.
[IMG]local://upfiles/30381/C4079ED8EAEE427CA80F9043250620C2.jpg[/IMG]
02-26-2008, 08:20 PM
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RE: long tube headers vs. shorty headers
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Except for that rust look.[:'(]
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Not just the kooks. You can't run any l/t's with a turbo...
For the millionth time, YOU HAVE SHORTIES ON YOUR CAR FROM THE FACTORY. The only real 'upgrade' from stock is L/T's - otherwise your stock manifolds are more than good enough.
Not just the kooks. You can't run any l/t's with a turbo...
For the millionth time, YOU HAVE SHORTIES ON YOUR CAR FROM THE FACTORY. The only real 'upgrade' from stock is L/T's - otherwise your stock manifolds are more than good enough.
02-26-2008, 09:22 PM
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RE: long tube headers vs. shorty headers
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LOL
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Except for that rust look.[:'(]
ORIGINAL: modaddict
Not just the kooks. You can't run any l/t's with a turbo...
For the millionth time, YOU HAVE SHORTIES ON YOUR CAR FROM THE FACTORY. The only real 'upgrade' from stock is L/T's - otherwise your stock manifolds are more than good enough.
Not just the kooks. You can't run any l/t's with a turbo...
For the millionth time, YOU HAVE SHORTIES ON YOUR CAR FROM THE FACTORY. The only real 'upgrade' from stock is L/T's - otherwise your stock manifolds are more than good enough.
Being in CA, as you know with having to be CARB certified, I was looking at the JBA shorties as they are CARB certified, but I also found out that Edelbrock has come out with their shorties and are also CARB certified. It would be nice to see numbers from a customer or indepedent to see if they get the same numbers Edelbrock says. But then again, the numbers they post are probably crank HP's. I would have ot look again, I think they said 15 to 20HP's
02-26-2008, 09:56 PM
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RE: long tube headers vs. shorty headers
I think with Hooker and BBK long tube headers you can retain the factory cats (using their modular mid-pipes)
wouldn't that still make you emissions legal in CA ?
In AZ we are good for 5 years till emissions testing so I got the LTs, but just in case I got the catted version of
x-pipe to match, and my tune disablestheO2 sensors so no"check engine lights".
To me shorties are not worth it unless you shiny stainless steel !! lol
Also while they , or you, are at it go ahead and change out your motor mounts, don't make the same mistake I did.
they are a real upgrade from the crappy stock mounts , easy mod to do while installingLTs ifraising engine.
wouldn't that still make you emissions legal in CA ?
In AZ we are good for 5 years till emissions testing so I got the LTs, but just in case I got the catted version of
x-pipe to match, and my tune disablestheO2 sensors so no"check engine lights".
To me shorties are not worth it unless you shiny stainless steel !! lol
Also while they , or you, are at it go ahead and change out your motor mounts, don't make the same mistake I did.
they are a real upgrade from the crappy stock mounts , easy mod to do while installingLTs ifraising engine.
02-26-2008, 10:05 PM
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RE: long tube headers vs. shorty headers
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I think with Hooker and BBK long tube headers you can retain the factory cats (using their modular mid-pipes)
wouldn't that still make you emissions legal in CA ?
In AZ we are good for 5 years till emissions testing so I got the LTs, but just in case I got the catted version of
x-pipe to match, and my tune disablestheO2 sensors so no"check engine lights".
To me shorties are not worth it unless you shiny stainless steel !! lol
Also while they , or you, are at it go ahead and change out your motor mounts, don't make the same mistake I did.
they are a real upgrade from the crappy stock mounts , easy mod to do while installingLTs ifraising engine.
I think with Hooker and BBK long tube headers you can retain the factory cats (using their modular mid-pipes)
wouldn't that still make you emissions legal in CA ?
In AZ we are good for 5 years till emissions testing so I got the LTs, but just in case I got the catted version of
x-pipe to match, and my tune disablestheO2 sensors so no"check engine lights".
To me shorties are not worth it unless you shiny stainless steel !! lol
Also while they , or you, are at it go ahead and change out your motor mounts, don't make the same mistake I did.
they are a real upgrade from the crappy stock mounts , easy mod to do while installingLTs ifraising engine.
Unfortunately no, it has to have a CARB certification. And have the certification number handy when smogged. Ours is 6 years, then every 2 years after that. I don't want to take the time to reinstall the factory for the test.