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Like i stated, you cant get the both of both worlds......you want loud, the loudmouths or stingers will do, the stingers have a little drone though........you want no drone then the Corsas dont have any. Go to youtube and do a search. The corsas sound great at WOT, a little quiet at idle though. The GTAs are also a little louder than stock but dont have drone. To my knowledge there is not a good solution to the "loud with no drone" muffler.