should i keep my saleen s/c?
 

Ibought a saleen s/c in April but havent put it on yet. I just recently put in a new 302 shortblock all forged and so now it has me wondering if i should just sell the saleen blower and go with a kb since i can up the boost higher than the 14psi max on the saleen. I need some opinions please!

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if you want one hell of a badass stang-kb.


driveability-saleen.


your choice!

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Dude why didn't you tell me that in JULY! I just had a Saleen installed last week!
As for keeping it, if you are going to, (not planning to) run more than 15psi then you need to look at something else. But if you plan on the driving the car on the street in traffic, anything more than 15psi is insane! The SC make a ton of heat, I am only running 6.5 psi and in traffic with the windows down I can feel the hot air coming off the motor not stock hot air but very hot air. I am all ready thinking about upgrading the radiator.

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ull be fine with this s/c you have one. keep it

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imho, yes put the saleen s/c up for sale, first here on the
forum then ebay if need be. the KB is definately the way
to go....can't wait to see how it all turns out

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sactown if your car putting off extra heat are you having any problem with the ac not cooling the inside off as well as before the sc install???

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No the AC works fine but it does take a little (I mean seconds) longer to get cold, but with how hot it has been this week and probably next, I don't run the AC when I am stuck and I mean stuck in traffic, Sac is almost as bad as LA for traffic. These dipsh!ts at caltrans added a light on my way home (one light)that forces 6 lanes of traffic into 2! What the F! were they thinking! it now takes me 15-20 minutes more to get home. I hate those A$$HOLES!

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hoow amny s/c's are going over 15 psi. buts its your money.

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After thinking about it, what year is your car? After going from a 281 to a 302 will the SC fit? Did you just stroke the block? I think you need to ask a couple more question before you give up on the Saleen SC you already paid,if you have any deep question ask blackhorse05 (or keep asking questions on the forum before just dumping it.) if he don't know I bet he can find someone that does. He knows his Saleen stuff. He is the one that offhard his advise on my car ( I did not ask and was clueless), and I am very happy with my car it fricking ripes A$$!

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sactown, its an 05 and yeah sorry about that, its a 302 stroker block by jdm. Are the saleen blowers whine loud or only at wot? I think i may just stay with the saleen for driveability issues this is why i asked for your guys opinion haha.

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Why are you worried about drivability if you went with a 302? If you wanted drivability you should have went with a 298. The 302 loses the knock sensors which in my opinion is a must fora street car. Also the 302 rattles like a BB in a box car. You are going to hate the piston slap. The 298 sounds stock. There are also differences in the way the 302 is going to idle and it's overall general drivability VS the 298. ( again, in my opinion.. ) you bought a race motor, not a daily driver motor.

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ive only had it in a couple weeks but the idle isnt that bad, only from cold start ups is it really different imo. The piston slap isnt too bad right now, but maybe it gets worse as more miles go on it im not sure. Thanks for your input hawgman, if its a race motor then maybe i will look into kb.

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it's only loud when you get on it. Just to give you an example last night on the way to the mall, so some chump pulled up next to me and ask (he may have 19 or 20) "Dude smoke the tires throw the intersection" but when I told him I could not because of the clutch, he asked why did your cluthc where out so fast, and I explained to him that it did not, I just went from 260-265 rwhp to 430rwhp and reved the **** out of the car, and was blow that SOB just about jumped out of his seat. Ithink that guy was more excited about he SC than me!

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My thoughts exactly ;)

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If your forged now and everything is new get the KB or Whipple as they can go up to 25 psi boost. The Saleen is limited to 15psi. If I were forged I would go above 15psi in a NY second! I mean why not the car is now built for it. Maximize the motors potential. Sell the Saleen S/C on here in the FOR SALE section....JMO

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that was my thinking too mygt500, thanks.

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Man I'm glad I don't drive in traffic!!!!!!

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Hufenstang, sounds like a beast is going to be born.

Hawgman, where can I find more information about the 298 vs the 302? This is just thedriveability info I'm looking for. I am trying to increase the displacement on my GT (normally aspirated) that I drive everyday in all weather. Thanks.

Sleeper2

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^^^Sorry about the temporary thread hijack.

Sleeper2

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I woulden't have done that. JDM is great for saleen tuning and installation but engine buliding i have heard they either don't do their own work or have the worst horrible service.

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Why would you lose the knock sensors??Because of the piston slap, making the sensors think its pinging.We have no problem with our stroker short blocks/kits. We do not have any piston slap issues and run just as stock. Not everyones kits are the same !

As far as the blower, if you are going to keep it a street car (not looking at making BIG hp #s), I would just stay with the Saleen. But, you know how it goes....never is enough power :D

Casey

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Who has one of your motors in their car? The driveability is effected but more so in the beginning on warmup. The clearance on a 302 is also so tight that it leads you more prone to other issues that can occur in other places. The piston slap is a given on any 302 but the degrees do vary with the builder. I have none on my 298 stroke. I have not seen one 302 kit that allows you to keep the knock sensors without issue. I don't see how you could get the clearance tight enough with a 302 to keep them. Every 302 kit I have seen (my own included) had to lose the knock sensors because the clearance on a 302 is so tight, it creates problems. This is why I have a 298 stroke in my car now and why I tell everyone NOT to get a 302 stroke. It's not worth 4 cubes for all the potential mishaps from it.

Everyone knows I'm a fan of the KB but I personally would really think about your decision and in your shoes, I would probably keep the Saleen. Someone made a comment about how many people are running over 15 lbs. and the list is pretty short. The reason it is pretty short is believe it or not, the KB and whipple have limitations aslo just like the saleen. The intake and TB are your achiles heel for boost beyond 14 psi. Right now, the only guy I know who has a working solution is Adam at ST Motorsports. I beleive all of the fastest twins screw cars are from ST right now and I 100% attribute that to his intake/TB kit.

The trouble is the company that custom fabs the TB for him (accufab) only makes so many and only makes them on order. Adam is a small shop so and has to hand make every kit so he is limited and his current supply of TB's at least for the next couple months are already spoken for. I'm not saying you 'can't' get one, I'm saying it may take a little bit.

The other thing that I personally have never mentioned before but it is important is that 99% of the guys pushing big power are not pushing that power everyday on pump gas. Especially the KB - that thing runs too hot to be driving around with 15+ psi on pump gas everyday. Your motor (any motor) wouldn't last long. The great thing about the KB is the ease of changing pullies. It takes me about 2 minutes to change the pulley on my car. I think it took me 5 minutes the very first time. Very easy. Personally, I run 11-12 psi everyday on pump gas and change pullies at the track and run 15 psi on good gas.

The point I am trying to make is their is actually a lot more to having a 10 sec or faster daily driver than most people think and is why there are only a few of us. If this car is going to be a track car then who cares, goes balls out and make it an 8 sec car!! A 10 sec trailer car isn't impressive anyway. Heck, a 9 sec trailer car isn't impressive to me...lol

If you plan on having a daily driver with serious boost and power. I strongly suggest you talk seriously with people who have done it and are doing it now because those who haven't - don't have a clue what it really takes to do it. There is a lot more to it than you think and there is no 'perfect build'. Big power creates problems and that's just a fact of racing. Things WILL break and you will ALWAYS have a weak link and that's just the way it is when you get into the big boy HP. You have to accept this fact first before anything else IMO.

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do you have the 2.6l ho? If so, how does it run when you take it downto 12psi?

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9 have to agree with ford fan. this is the fourth time in one week ive said that./ hes the man

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