Cooling System Upgrade
08-28-2007, 10:51 AM
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RE: Cooling System Upgrade
Hmmmm, I rarely see under 40 degree temps. Maybe i should be using less coolant and more water? Of course water boils at a lower temperature than antifreeze right?
ORIGINAL: joshetc
Stuff like water wetter gets its benefit from actually replacing antifreeze, it serves and anti-algae and anti-corrosion without anti-freezing capabilities. Regular anti-freeze has worse thermal characteristics than water wetter. Downside is your coolant will freeze if you live in an area that sees those temperatures. Simply adding racing coolant to a regular 50/50 mixture will not increase performance, it will actually lower it as you are displacing water which has better characteristics than racing fluid.
Also, Zerex Racing Coolant has been better for me than water wetter, its pink.. but leaves less gunk behind.
ORIGINAL: moosestang
Also does anyone use the water wetter made by redline? Whipple recommends it in the intercooler and radiator in their instructions.
Also does anyone use the water wetter made by redline? Whipple recommends it in the intercooler and radiator in their instructions.
Also, Zerex Racing Coolant has been better for me than water wetter, its pink.. but leaves less gunk behind.
08-28-2007, 11:07 AM
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RE: Cooling System Upgrade
Yes, water is a MUCH better way to get rid of heat than antifreeze. My S/C instructions say to have a 80/20 mix in the intercooler. I'm afraid to have 80% water though, because our winters here in Iowa get pretty cold. I don't want it freezing in there.
08-28-2007, 12:24 PM
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RE: Cooling System Upgrade
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Yes, water is a MUCH better way to get rid of heat than antifreeze. My S/C instructions say to have a 80/20 mix in the intercooler. I'm afraid to have 80% water though, because our winters here in Iowa get pretty cold. I don't want it freezing in there.
Yes, water is a MUCH better way to get rid of heat than antifreeze. My S/C instructions say to have a 80/20 mix in the intercooler. I'm afraid to have 80% water though, because our winters here in Iowa get pretty cold. I don't want it freezing in there.
08-28-2007, 01:08 PM
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RE: Cooling System Upgrade
Best mod for you hands down would be to add a larger intercooler resevoir (icebox). Adam at ST Motorsports makes a nice one for the saleen kit.
You will be able to stuff Ice in there at the track and it will make a big difference but it is great for the street as well as you'll hold about 5 more gallons of water to feed the intercooler during daily driver. Must have mod IMO for all s/c kits.
You will be able to stuff Ice in there at the track and it will make a big difference but it is great for the street as well as you'll hold about 5 more gallons of water to feed the intercooler during daily driver. Must have mod IMO for all s/c kits.
08-28-2007, 02:25 PM
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RE: Cooling System Upgrade
Thanks![sm=icon_cheers.gif]
I can tell you guys now that I could not have a 10 sec daily driver without the larger intercooler resevior...period. It is that important.
Here is a dyno clip of my car to see where I put the larger resevior with a KB kit. (the big metal box over the driver fenderwell) The spot on the saleen and whipples is in front of the fan. I'll try to find a pic of one as I know several guys with them...
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v6...T9Aug07005.flv
I can tell you guys now that I could not have a 10 sec daily driver without the larger intercooler resevior...period. It is that important.
Here is a dyno clip of my car to see where I put the larger resevior with a KB kit. (the big metal box over the driver fenderwell) The spot on the saleen and whipples is in front of the fan. I'll try to find a pic of one as I know several guys with them...
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v6...T9Aug07005.flv
08-28-2007, 02:41 PM
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RE: Cooling System Upgrade
ill post a pic of mine later tonight if i can. but basically i got 3/4 hose from lowes, about 50 bucks. you need at least 37ft. then ran the lines on the pass side of the car to the trunk. i mounted the cell on the corner of the valley for the spare. i also relocated the pump to the trunk and mounted it in the valley so it could be gravity fed. if you dont mind running without a spare, then its a great combo. i was even able to put the factory carpet back in, with a 2 holes for the lines. now i can still put groceries in the trunk
08-28-2007, 03:16 PM
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RE: Cooling System Upgrade
Water is a much better coolant than antifreeze. If you rarely see low temperatures I'd try a 75/5/20 mixture of 75% water, 5% zerex racing coolant, and 20% antifreeze. Remember another big reason to use antifreeze is the anti corrosion properties of it. With something like that you should be good to like 28-30F too.. somewhat below freezing, but if you see 20F you're ****ed.
ORIGINAL: moosestang
Hmmmm, I rarely see under 40 degree temps. Maybe i should be using less coolant and more water? Of course water boils at a lower temperature than antifreeze right?
Hmmmm, I rarely see under 40 degree temps. Maybe i should be using less coolant and more water? Of course water boils at a lower temperature than antifreeze right?
ORIGINAL: joshetc
Stuff like water wetter gets its benefit from actually replacing antifreeze, it serves and anti-algae and anti-corrosion without anti-freezing capabilities. Regular anti-freeze has worse thermal characteristics than water wetter. Downside is your coolant will freeze if you live in an area that sees those temperatures. Simply adding racing coolant to a regular 50/50 mixture will not increase performance, it will actually lower it as you are displacing water which has better characteristics than racing fluid.
Also, Zerex Racing Coolant has been better for me than water wetter, its pink.. but leaves less gunk behind.
ORIGINAL: moosestang
Also does anyone use the water wetter made by redline? Whipple recommends it in the intercooler and radiator in their instructions.
Also does anyone use the water wetter made by redline? Whipple recommends it in the intercooler and radiator in their instructions.
Also, Zerex Racing Coolant has been better for me than water wetter, its pink.. but leaves less gunk behind.