joining the cam club!
10-02-2008, 08:19 PM
#11
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i appreciate your help...i'm trying to use it to make a good choice, but i know there's always going to be a risk of some sort. the easiest thing to do would be to do nothing, but that's no fun!
right now my inclination is to install the cams without limiters, but i'm not a 100% decided.
right now my inclination is to install the cams without limiters, but i'm not a 100% decided.
10-02-2008, 08:38 PM
#12
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SirKnightTG, excellent points.....i like hearing
that frpp says you don't need them.
rojizo, i wish we could compare the specs of
a comp cam like the thumpers, with that of
the hot rods, to see if the similarities are enough
to warrant limiters.
that frpp says you don't need them.
rojizo, i wish we could compare the specs of
a comp cam like the thumpers, with that of
the hot rods, to see if the similarities are enough
to warrant limiters.
10-02-2008, 08:41 PM
#13
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I didnt have any piston to valve contact with the stock cams during the failure. My oil pressure was way off was all and it started burning the oil up crazy fast. I replaced my phasers and havent had any problems since.
10-02-2008, 09:40 PM
#14
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Here's what I could come up with for specs:
Comp Cam Thumprs: https://mustangforums.com/forum/show...=470352&page=6
FRPP Hot Rod: http://www.suttonhp.com/store/item.a...96&ITEM_ID=765
I tried to compare but the way the numbers are laid out is different and I'm not up on cams well enough to get past that.
Comp Cam Thumprs: https://mustangforums.com/forum/show...=470352&page=6
FRPP Hot Rod: http://www.suttonhp.com/store/item.a...96&ITEM_ID=765
I tried to compare but the way the numbers are laid out is different and I'm not up on cams well enough to get past that.
10-02-2008, 09:49 PM
#15
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Yep, MyLocalDJ said Ford Racing told him that. His post is here: https://mustangforums.com/forum/show...=470352&page=2
I've read, I think on other forums, people also reporting that Ford Racing told them to not use limiters or lockouts.
Doug from Bamachips said he was going to put Hot Rods on his car. I should send him an email about that and see what he says about limiters.
10-02-2008, 09:54 PM
#16
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do we know of anyone yet running frpp cams that have had a piston contact issue with unmodified limiters?
i think some one had a problem with the comp cams thumper cams and phase limiters (or the lack thereof), but as of yet i haven't heard of a problem with the hot rod cams, that i can remember
looks like i need to do a little more research.
edit:
okay, i read the tech article, and it's the same that i read on another site. i'm certainly not trying to be argumentative in any way, but i didn't think this write up referred to all aftermarket camshafts; i thought it referred to those cam grinds that they (comp cams) said require limiters, like the stage III and stage IV grinds.
i'm probably wrong.
i think some one had a problem with the comp cams thumper cams and phase limiters (or the lack thereof), but as of yet i haven't heard of a problem with the hot rod cams, that i can remember
looks like i need to do a little more research.
edit:
okay, i read the tech article, and it's the same that i read on another site. i'm certainly not trying to be argumentative in any way, but i didn't think this write up referred to all aftermarket camshafts; i thought it referred to those cam grinds that they (comp cams) said require limiters, like the stage III and stage IV grinds.
i'm probably wrong.
10-02-2008, 10:03 PM
#17
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that is a great graph....
blue = stock
red = hot rods
green = thumpers
at least that's what my notes show.
SirKnight, i know what you mean....the specs for
the different cams don't jive and they are hard
to compare
blue = stock
red = hot rods
green = thumpers
at least that's what my notes show.
SirKnight, i know what you mean....the specs for
the different cams don't jive and they are hard
to compare
10-03-2008, 06:29 PM
#19
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I also called FRPP about using limiters/lockouts and the tech there said the same thing to me. Meaning, he said there is no need for them and he doesnt recommend them. He said the Hot Rod cams are so mild in their set up that the use of limiters/lockouts are not needed or recommended. Think I'll go with that advice... my 2 cents anyway
10-03-2008, 08:20 PM
#20
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Location: Texas
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Jesus people! Enough with the technical BS. I bought the FRPP cams for my 07 Roush STAGE 3 and those things are wicked nice. Jesus. I didn't hear one thing about any of the ramblings above and who cares. The whole point of these suckers was to install them with NO modifications other than a tune.
Buy some. Run them. And have fun. Quit talking and start driving already.
Buy some. Run them. And have fun. Quit talking and start driving already.