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My 05 might be out the door gas is about to eat our lunch

Old 09-01-2005, 02:28 PM
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BP does not drill "American oil". BP does not drill at all. BP is purely a refining company. They buy oil from their suppliers and do all the refining. Their profits are excellent b/c they are not affected by search and drilling issues. If their suppliers increase their price they increase their price, their profit never suffers, we do! I have their stock...it's been good.
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Old 09-01-2005, 03:10 PM
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We need to start using more ethanol blended gas. Ethanol is made from corn and we have plenty of it. The IRL will soon be racing on 100% ethanol. We do need to build more oil refineries as well to keep up with demand. Another thing that might help is to try and buy gas from stations that use American drilled oil. Some of them are Sunoco,BP, Phillips 66, and Sinclair or something like that.
Did you happen to see the picture of the BP station in Atlanta yesterday on CNN. They wanted $6 a gallon. I think I will pass on BP.
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Old 09-01-2005, 04:22 PM
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lol here's the thing Bush has never been poor. The oil peeople have never been poor. They both wanna make their already rich pockets richer for some reason. So they both shake hands and we lose.
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Old 09-01-2005, 05:38 PM
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Derf, I don't know about you but I don't fill up my fuel tank with sweet light crude. I need a refinery (like the ones now shut down) to turn it into gasoline for me. So how do you figure there's no effect?

At this point it doesn't help if we crack open the strategic reserve or get 10 billion barrels of free oil from OPEC... we don't have the refinery capacity to do anything with that oil. We were already operating at full capacity because no new refineries have been built in the US since 1975 thanks to the enviro-nuts and NIMBY idiots. Hopefully this disaster will lead to new refineries in less vulnerable areas of the country.

Until then, I'll put my right foot on a diet.
Your point is made, but what got our prices to this level to begin with is the price of a barrel of oil. The fact we now have no refineries or almost none just screws us even worse.
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Old 09-01-2005, 11:56 PM
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Ok, I think it's time to realize that we have ben living with artificially LOW gas prices for years. Now with the disaster, prices are jumping WAY up! I just paid $3.09/gal for Reg 87 today. It's supply and demand. Why people think gasoline prices should go down is economical nonsense! What is even bigger nonsense is the way we aren't developing more economical engines! Why are the only 3 hybrids made by Honda and Toyota? And of course the environmentalists won't let us drill for US oil...
It's time to find an alternative.
And don't blame the local gas station for the high price.
Perhaps people should have invested in an oil company. I bought Occidental at $32.50/ share and now it's at $84
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:54 AM
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I just put pencil to paper (well actually fingers to keyboard ala Excel) and determined that driving my Mustang over the Civic I had is going to cost me about $1000 more per year, if gas prices get up to $3.50 for 87. At first, that is rather shocking and one's first inclination would be to say "screw that, the beast stays in the garage". However, upon reflection, I realized that I'm getting something for that extra money and it just may be worth it to me.

Unquestionable hot looking car.
Awesome sounding exhaust (stock even)
Frickin fun to drive
Great stereo system (Shaker 500 and no, mine has never skipped)
Very comfortable driving machine (seats, etc.)

That's the short, obvious list. So now I look this over and think to myself, "self, is this really worth $20 per week, $100 per month? I could pay a bill with that $100 per month!" How can I justify this $20 per week just so I can have a nice drive to work and back and the Civic wasn't that bad. So I think and I think and eventually get a headache because I'm not used to so much thinking but eventually see that I'm being selfish and illogical getting my pony fix at the expense of my kids college fund.

Of course, then I came to my senses and realized that I'm performing a public service with my $100 per month. I'm using all the gas that every Prius I see on the road is saving and looking damn good doing it. So, it is my destiny to pay my extra dues so that those less fortunate Prius driving SOB's who probably pay as much monthly as I do for their ****ty looking "green" car can save their $20 per week in the name of conservation. I'm the "dark" to their "light"--the yang to their yin--the rebel to their cause. This is natural order to all things and I am complete. I am whole. I am vindicated.
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:57 AM
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BP does not drill "American oil". BP does not drill at all. BP is purely a refining company. They buy oil from their suppliers and do all the refining. Their profits are excellent b/c they are not affected by search and drilling issues. If their suppliers increase their price they increase their price, their profit never suffers, we do! I have their stock...it's been good.
I'm just saying they use American oil for refining, not oil from Saudi Arabia. And I'm sure BP wasn't the only station charging $5 or $6 dollars, where I live they are charging $3.08 just like every other station.
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:30 PM
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Orion, you must not keep up with cars. Ford offers hybrids now, GM is developing them and they will be on the market soon... If you're worried about more economical engines, you're on the wrong website.
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Old 09-02-2005, 01:47 PM
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You do know that Pres. BUSH and his family are business partners with several oil lords in the middle east, to include the BIN LADIN family of Saudi Arabia. Just my two cents.
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Old 09-02-2005, 02:06 PM
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Ok, I think it's time to realize that we have ben living with artificially LOW gas prices for years. Now with the disaster, prices are jumping WAY up! I just paid $3.09/gal for Reg 87 today. It's supply and demand. Why people think gasoline prices should go down is economical nonsense! What is even bigger nonsense is the way we aren't developing more economical engines! Why are the only 3 hybrids made by Honda and Toyota? And of course the environmentalists won't let us drill for US oil...
It's time to find an alternative.

And don't blame the local gas station for the high price.
Perhaps people should have invested in an oil company. I bought Occidental at $32.50/ share and now it's at $84
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?...ticle&sid=1473
http://hytechapps.com/applications/HHOS.htm

There are people that have, I saw this on TV a few days ago. A '93 escort that runs on WATER. Do you think that ANY auto manufacturer will ever build a production model (not a prototype but a full production model)? Nope... why? Because water is FREE. No profit in water...well not in rain water or well water. You pointed it out very obviously..MONEY. $32.50 a share now at $84. Why would you want to us to pay less? If everyone pays less you lose your profit margin. I guarantee that if oil prices bottomed out because there were real alternatives available you would either bail out and minimize your loses or lose your shirt. Not saying anything about you personally (don't know you) but it's money that makes the world go 'round. Environmentalists are just the other (opposite) extreme of the Stock Market. Both are idealistic to the extreme.

As far as complaining about gas prices in general. There's a ton of reasons why prices have gone up. Everything eventually does.

There is such a thing as price gouging. It's happening in the Southeastern states with some gas stations charging 6 bucks a gallon cos they can. When someone raises the price of something beyond what is reasonable because they can, it's called price gouging. Gas, unlike a car, you can't always decide whether or not you will buy it. Gee, I'm trying to move my family away from an urban warzone. Do I pay 6 bucks a gallon or do I stay and put my family at risk? No brainer.

Not the same as, Gee I like the new mustang. Should I buy one at 5K over MSRP or just wait....
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